Re: [Pharo-users] Accessing DLLs in Smalltalk/V

2014-06-03 Thread Markus Fritsche
On 30.05.2014 08:50, Joachim Geidel wrote: > Yes, this page helped, but as you wrote: basic and simple example - > the more involved stuff remains undocumented. When working on JNIPort, > I struggled with simple things like de-referencing a pointer to a > pointer to a struct etc. - I didn’t find d

[Pharo-users] MorphTree behavior changed

2014-06-03 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Hi, why when morph tree send updateList there is an announcement from the model? It was not the case before. Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread Johan Fabry
On Jun 3, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Camille Teruel wrote: > > On 3 juin 2014, at 17:34, Johan Fabry wrote: > >> >> On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:21 AM, Camille Teruel wrote: >> To what I understand, types are inferred, it is not statically typed. Am I wrong ? >>> >>> If there is type inferenc

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread Camille Teruel
On 3 juin 2014, at 17:34, Johan Fabry wrote: > > On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:21 AM, Camille Teruel wrote: > >>> To what I understand, types are inferred, it is not statically typed. Am I >>> wrong ? >> >> If there is type inference then it is statically typed (at least partially >> if not every

Re: [Pharo-users] PIllar >> #visitAnnotatedParagraph:

2014-06-03 Thread Ben Coman
Damien Cassou wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Ben Coman wrote: Yes. I am doing something similar. btw, is it a strong convention that Tex commands and environments are all lowercase? That is, should I force the annotation label in "\begin{note}" to lowercase, or should I pass that th

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread Johan Fabry
On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:57 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > We have to do some type inference (for tools) some time. Should be fun. (by > the way, is there something like that already?) There has been some work done on type inference for Smalltalk, the RoelTyper example that I keep mentioning worked o

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread Johan Fabry
On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:21 AM, Camille Teruel wrote: >> To what I understand, types are inferred, it is not statically typed. Am I >> wrong ? > > If there is type inference then it is statically typed (at least partially if > not every variable type can be inferred) To repeat myself: this is n

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread Johan Fabry
On Jun 3, 2014, at 3:10 AM, Clément Bera wrote: >> What's interesting about swift is not only that Apple chose an existing name >> for their new programming language (interesting for a company that is very >> careful about their own brand names), but that swift seems to be statically >> typed

Re: [Pharo-users] Curl markup with Pillar

2014-06-03 Thread Damien Cassou
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > The links in there do not seem to work. When linking to smalltalkhub the ~is > exchanged by %7E I checked and this is not a bug of Pillar but a bug of github's markdown: https://github.com/github/markup/issues/311 -- Damien Cassou htt

Re: [Pharo-users] Configuration browser and Fuel

2014-06-03 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, On 03 Jun 2014, at 08:01, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > In Pharo 3.0 we do have Fuel in the image. > > Now, there is also Fuel in the ConfigurationBrowser. > > When one wants to work with Fuel, should one update the image with what is in > the ConfigurationBrowser? no Esteban > > TIA >

[Pharo-users] Configuration browser and Fuel

2014-06-03 Thread p...@highoctane.be
In Pharo 3.0 we do have Fuel in the image. Now, there is also Fuel in the ConfigurationBrowser. When one wants to work with Fuel, should one update the image with what is in the ConfigurationBrowser? TIA Phil

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread Andrew Glynn
I don't think the claim is that Pharo or any Smalltalk is 'simple', but when someone new to coding has to first learn how to pretend they're using a late 70"s terminal and a crappy text editor, then remember 2 arcane commands just to get a project built, never mind debug it, the price of entry

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread kilon alios
"What makes Pharo and Smalltalk so cool is this magical simplicity on so many levels." I have a problem with this, I think its not sincere. I know that a Pharo developers would love to throw on my face the basic syntax of Pharo that can fit in a single page but the truth is that Pharo because it i

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 03 Jun 2014, at 10:53, kilon alios wrote: > For anyone who has not not watched it yet, you can watch the Playground demo > here. Looks like they were inspired by Bred Victor demos. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l62x8Oq_QP4 > > Swift is statically typed with type inference. BUT it has

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
On 03 Jun 2014, at 14:23, kilon alios wrote: > For anyone who has not not watched it yet, you can watch the Playground demo > here. Looks like they were inspired by Bred Victor demos. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l62x8Oq_QP4 > > Swift is statically typed with type inference. BUT it has

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread kilon alios
For anyone who has not not watched it yet, you can watch the Playground demo here. Looks like they were inspired by Bred Victor demos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l62x8Oq_QP4 Swift is statically typed with type inference. BUT it has generics and optional types. So it looks like it tries to le

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread stepharo
Hi, The work on GToolkit goes in this direction. Funny enough, we also have a Playground :). Look here for an example: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/dynamic-exploration-of-a-postgres-db-with-the-gtinspector/ More will come in this direction. I happen to believe that this is the are

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread Camille Teruel
On 3 juin 2014, at 09:10, Clément Bera wrote: > > > > 2014-06-03 8:40 GMT+02:00 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de : > I remember seeing a demo of F# at an Eclipse conference a few years ago. It > also very much reminded me of Smalltalk. > > What's interesting about swift is not only that Apple chose

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread kilon alios
The big question here is not whether Pharo can implement something similar to Playground, Moose and Roassal in particular are quite close. The one million dollars question is Swift a live coding language or is Swift a language with some live coding tools. Obviously I would love to be the first opt

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Clement, Hmm, as far as I've read (and I haven't read much), all methods have an obligatory return type. But you can write let a = "some text", so I guess you are right. And me probably too ;-) Joachim Am 03.06.14 09:10, schrieb Clément Bera: 2014-06-03 8:40 GMT+02:00 jtuc...@objekt

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, The work on GToolkit goes in this direction. Funny enough, we also have a Playground :). Look here for an example: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/dynamic-exploration-of-a-postgres-db-with-the-gtinspector/ More will come in this direction. I happen to believe that this is the area with

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Yeah looks cool. Just a step further, no revolution though. The fact that for each statement Playground will immediately show its results next to the code, makes programming a bit easier. I wonder how/if this works for code that does not define all its values with let statements ;-). But I gue

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread Clément Bera
2014-06-03 8:40 GMT+02:00 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de : > I remember seeing a demo of F# at an Eclipse conference a few years ago. > It also very much reminded me of Smalltalk. > > What's interesting about swift is not only that Apple chose an existing > name for their new programming language (intere

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

2014-06-03 Thread darrinm
Here's an example of the Playground in use: https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/recipes/xcode_help-source_editor/ExploringandEvaluatingSwiftCodeinaPlayground/ExploringandEvaluatingSwiftCodeinaPlayground.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40009975-CH26 -- View this message in context: ht