Re: [Pharo-users] Snapshotcello & Pharo 20: issues...

2013-09-25 Thread Tudor Girba
Strange. I've never encountered this. each should be a MCWorkingCopy. I will try to take a look, but it might take a while. In the meantime, can you locate the package in your configuration? Is it possible that something went wrong with Monticello? Cheers, Doru On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:29

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

2013-09-25 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Philippe wrote: >FWIW, that ConfigurationOfSeaside3 leads to all kinds of problems when coupled >with MagritteMagic and TwitterBoostrap... >The fact that those are loading Seaside30 on their own isn't helping... That >name change may not have been the best thing (keeping 30 would have been >bett

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Jesus Nuñez
In the section *SOUL versus PROLOG* of http://soft.vub.ac.be/Publications/2000/vub-prog-phd-00-02.pdf, the autor says: When switching from SOUL to Prolog, we actually extended the SOUL system to > export all SOUL code in Prolog format. More recent versions of the SOUL > system include an option to

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Jesus Nuñez
Sorry, I hate its syntax, too verbose for my taste. What about dynamic modules, DCG, CHR, CLP, performance in general?. What about meta-programming, operator declarations. Do you really thing SOUL is a good replacement for Prolog?, I do not see the expressiveness of Prolog reflected in what I have

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Jesus Nuñez
OK I found it, I'll have a look 2013/9/25 Jesus Nuñez > where is it?? > > > 2013/9/25 Stéphane Ducasse > >> did you look at SOUL? >> >> Stef >> >> On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Jesus Nuñez >> wrote: >> >> In my very first attempt, I tried to port a package which sounds to me >> like the one yo

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Jesus Nuñez
where is it?? 2013/9/25 Stéphane Ducasse > did you look at SOUL? > > Stef > > On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Jesus Nuñez wrote: > > In my very first attempt, I tried to port a package which sounds to me > like the one you describe. In the examples there was a snoopy world as a > search example,

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
did you look at SOUL? Stef On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Jesus Nuñez wrote: > In my very first attempt, I tried to port a package which sounds to me like > the one you describe. In the examples there was a snoopy world as a search > example, maybe you recall it from that. However I realized t

Re: [Pharo-users] Snapshotcello & Pharo 20: issues...

2013-09-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
this is strange since I could snapshot moose and synectique using it. I'm about to write a boring report so I'm not allowed to open Pharo right now. > I am giving a shot at Snapshotcello since it looks like a superb solution for > creating images properly from a complex configuration. > > From

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Jesus Nuñez
In my very first attempt, I tried to port a package which sounds to me like the one you describe. In the examples there was a snoopy world as a search example, maybe you recall it from that. However I realized that I didn't want to emulate Prolog in Pharo; nothing like fast compiled and optimized

[Pharo-users] Snapshotcello continued...

2013-09-25 Thread p...@highoctane.be
It looks like that the workingCopiesFromConfiguration gives a collection containing a nil val I copied the collection in to a temp var so that I could debug (workingCopies) When I do: workingCopies select: [ :each | each isNil ] --> an OrderedCollection(nil nil nil) Uh Oh... I've made some ch

Re: [Pharo-users] Image taking up 100% CPU

2013-09-25 Thread Paul DeBruicker
You might try it with Eliot Miranda's VM from here: http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/ On 09/25/2013 08:59 AM, Bernat Romagosa wrote: > It's a Pharo 1.4 image on this VM: > > 'CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.161 uuid: > 8e0c22c3-b48d-4d8d-a7f9-8a75dc246f28 Jul 18 2012, >

[Pharo-users] Snapshotcello & Pharo 20: issues...

2013-09-25 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I am giving a shot at Snapshotcello since it looks like a superb solution for creating images properly from a complex configuration. From http://www.tudorgirba.com/blog/snapshotcello-take-a-snapshot-when-you-re-ready, I tried to craft a call for my configuration. I've loaded ConfigurationOfSnapsh

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Robert Shiplett
You may know about the prolog for Smalltalk/DOS of about 1990 vintage ... I must have it on a floppy in a box somewhere on a shelf. R On 25 September 2013 10:29, Jesus Nuñez wrote: > I'll try to elaborate but what I can say is only from my limited > perspective. You can take it as an incomple

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Robert Shiplett
this sounds very much like a Squeak effort of mine in 1996 ;-) Have you looked at SOUL and Qsoul-era code of Roel Wuyts ? Some of that code was VW and Squeak as I recall. I hope you fare better than I did in comm telco setting where identifying resources should have been, err, of interest to mana

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

2013-09-25 Thread p...@highoctane.be
FWIW, that ConfigurationOfSeaside3 leads to all kinds of problems when coupled with MagritteMagic and TwitterBoostrap... The fact that those are loading Seaside30 on their own isn't helping... That name change may not have been the best thing (keeping 30 would have been better IMV). Callbacks aren

[Pharo-users] NeoJSON mapping

2013-09-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
Is it possible to make a mapping for NeoJSON that an object shape maps to a different shape. I mean if it is possible to have a class with instVars: Foo +name +x +y that maps to { 'name' ; …, 'point' : { x : …, y : …. } } thanks, Norbert

Re: [Pharo-users] Image taking up 100% CPU

2013-09-25 Thread Bernat Romagosa
I've just realised my image weighs 301Mb! 2013/9/25 Bernat Romagosa > It's a Pharo 1.4 image on this VM: > > 'CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.161 uuid: > 8e0c22c3-b48d-4d8d-a7f9-8a75dc246f28 Jul 18 2012, > StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.161 uuid: > 8e0c2

Re: [Pharo-users] Image taking up 100% CPU

2013-09-25 Thread Bernat Romagosa
It's a Pharo 1.4 image on this VM: 'CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.161 uuid: 8e0c22c3-b48d-4d8d-a7f9-8a75dc246f28 Jul 18 2012, StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.161 uuid: 8e0c22c3-b48d-4d8d-a7f9-8a75dc246f28 Jul 18 2012, https://git.gitorious.org/cogvm/blesse

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

2013-09-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Hi Stef, > > I'm able to reproduce your problems, by not cleaning the packagecache. > The new version of Grease-Pharo20-Core is pmm.1. Having a packagecache > that contains versions that seem to be newer creates loading of wrong > versi

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Jesus Nuñez
I'll try to elaborate but what I can say is only from my limited perspective. You can take it as an incomplete argument that needs much refinement, but could however serve as a seed for an upcoming idea. Search: After all we can see the entire web as a large graph which we seek to traverse, lookin

Re: [Pharo-users] Image taking up 100% CPU

2013-09-25 Thread Paul DeBruicker
Which image and vm ? On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:24 AM, Bernat Romagosa wrote: > Hmmm something weird just happened. I restarted Komanche, then when I saved > the image and the CPU rushed to 100%! > > > 2013/9/25 Janko Mivšek > Hi Bernat, > > I remember once having similar problems on Swazoo.

[Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

2013-09-25 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Hi Stef, I'm able to reproduce your problems, by not cleaning the packagecache. The new version of Grease-Pharo20-Core is pmm.1. Having a packagecache that contains versions that seem to be newer creates loading of wrong versions. In my case, it tried loading Grease-Pharo20-Core-pmm.17.mcz. Sha

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 25.09.2013 um 13:02 schrieb Jesus Nuñez : > What did happen to Helvetia? Sorry if I am an ignorant here but I think > language boxes in Pharo; to interac, remarkably with Prolog, would be > definitely a plus for semantic web development in Smalltalk. > > Cheers > Sounds interesting. Can y

Re: [Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Jesus Nuñez
What did happen to Helvetia? Sorry if I am an ignorant here but I think language boxes in Pharo; to interac, remarkably with Prolog, would be definitely a plus for semantic web development in Smalltalk. Cheers 2013/9/25 Norbert Hartl > Looking for semantic web tools I found > > http://www.s

Re: [Pharo-users] Morph relative positions

2013-09-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 20.09.2013 um 12:24 schrieb Igor Stasenko : > > > > On 20 September 2013 12:15, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Next try. I may do something stupid but it appears that all morphs draw on > the same coordinate system. Meaning that every Morph that will draw something > at 0@0 will put it in the to

Re: [Pharo-users] Image taking up 100% CPU

2013-09-25 Thread Bernat Romagosa
Hmmm something weird just happened. I restarted Komanche, then when I saved the image and the CPU rushed to 100%! 2013/9/25 Janko Mivšek > Hi Bernat, > > I remember once having similar problems on Swazoo. But on image restart. > If Swazoo was not stopped before image shutdown, image went into 1

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-25 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi Do you try tODE? (I'm not yet but I really want it) 2013/9/25 Norbert Hartl > > Am 25.09.2013 um 09:55 schrieb Marcus Denker : > > > On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > I use it for remotely deployed images. Whenever a debugger opens I get an > email, connect to the image

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 25.09.2013 um 09:55 schrieb Marcus Denker : > > On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> I use it for remotely deployed images. Whenever a debugger opens I get an >> email, connect to the image and examine the problem, fix it and done. >> Nothing beats the debugger. >> > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Image taking up 100% CPU

2013-09-25 Thread Janko Mivšek
Hi Bernat, I remember once having similar problems on Swazoo. But on image restart. If Swazoo was not stopped before image shutdown, image went into 100% CPU after restart. Something like that. It seems therefore that this is sockets related problem What if you stop your web server and start agai

Re: [Pharo-users] Image taking up 100% CPU

2013-09-25 Thread Bernat Romagosa
Forgot to answer that I'm not using RFB. I had sooo many problems with it that since last year I've been using xpra instead, which lets you capture running X windows remotely over SSH. It's kind of like screen (not even remotely so powerful) but for GUIs. Cheers, Bernat. 2013/

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-25 Thread Marcus Denker
On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > I use it for remotely deployed images. Whenever a debugger opens I get an > email, connect to the image and examine the problem, fix it and done. > Nothing beats the debugger. > Yes, we need remote debugging + Browsing... > But yes a repl

Re: [Pharo-users] Image taking up 100% CPU

2013-09-25 Thread Bernat Romagosa
Not really, the image is not being saved regularly... all data is stored in a neo4j database, so there's no need to save the image. It seems like it may have something to do with users uploading files in some particular moments, but I'm using Göran's file upload mechanism, in which files are strea

[Pharo-users] Semantic web packages

2013-09-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
Looking for semantic web tools I found http://www.squeaksource.com/TripleStore/ Are there other resources for the semantic web in pharo? smalltalk? Norbert

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

2013-09-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
yes, but the configurations should be also copied into the catalog repositories (I hate that, we need a better way). also AFAIK, the new shiny way of loading Seaside is not to use ConfigurationOfSeaside30, but ConfigurationOfSeaside3 (which is confuse too... :( ) Esteban On Sep 25, 2013, at

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
I use it for remotely deployed images. Whenever a debugger opens I get an email, connect to the image and examine the problem, fix it and done. Nothing beats the debugger. But yes a repl would be useful to for different things. Norbert Am 25.09.2013 um 03:14 schrieb "Esteban A. Maringolo" : >