Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread Bahman Movaqar
On 08/23/2013 13:02, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would > you guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software > solutions? > > My current stack is: > > Pharo 2.0 > Seaside 3 (including Seaside-REST) > Magrit

Re: [Pharo-users] Trait composition on runtime

2013-08-23 Thread Johan Fabry
On Aug 23, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> Metaprogramming is your friend :-P >> >> Actually this is only half jokingly … one of the ideas of metaprogramming is >> that the programmer can mold the semantics of the language to his/her liking >> depending on the task at hand. This (am

Re: [Pharo-users] Trait composition on runtime

2013-08-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 23.08.2013 um 15:44 schrieb Johan Fabry : > > On Aug 23, 2013, at 3:48 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>> would strategy not solve your problem? >>> >> Sure if I would have an actual problem I would use strategy to mitigate the >> problem. With strategy you can extend the single dimensionalit

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread Johan Fabry
Wow. This is exactly what I wanted to say … except 10 times better :-) I think this is an excellent way to argue for the Pharo advantage! On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > A small team with sufficient real world software development experience, > domain knowledge

Re: [Pharo-users] Trait composition on runtime

2013-08-23 Thread Johan Fabry
On Aug 23, 2013, at 3:48 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> would strategy not solve your problem? >> > Sure if I would have an actual problem I would use strategy to mitigate the > problem. With strategy you can extend the single dimensionality of single > inheritance but you cannot acquire new beh

[Pharo-users] [Off-Topic] Looking for a VisualWorks developer

2013-08-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi, On behalf of a contact of me, I am posting the following job offer. I am well aware that this is not the correct list, please feel free to distribute this message further. It could be important for someone, and it is always good to have more people making a living doing Smalltalk. Delaware

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 23 Aug 2013, at 10:32, "p...@highoctane.be" wrote: > Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you > guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? > > My current stack is: > > Pharo 2.0 > Seaside 3 (including Seaside-RE

Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2013/8/23 Stéphane Ducasse : >> Hello, >> >> As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you >> guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? > > - Pool of accessible experts > - Pool of other software solution developers > - Full stack acce

Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread Tudor Girba
Very nice, indeed! I like the examples. Doru On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 21 Aug 2013, at 11:52, b...@openinworld.com wrote: > > > Yesterday I came across this very nice Pharo tutorial [1] by Damien & > Camille. Some slides I think that relate are: > >

Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 21 Aug 2013, at 11:52, b...@openinworld.com wrote: > Yesterday I came across this very nice Pharo tutorial [1] by Damien & > Camille. Some slides I think that relate are: > * 47-49 syntax comparisons to another typical language > * 72-75 easy web interaction > * 80 serializing continuations /

Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you > guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? - Pool of accessible experts - Pool of other software solution developers - Full stack access, no need to wait for another releas

Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread btc
p...@highoctane.be wrote: Hello, As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? My current stack is: Pharo 2.0 Seaside 3 (including Seaside-REST) Magritte 3 Twitter Bootstrap + a couple of

Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Live programming is main advantage to me 2013/8/23 p...@highoctane.be > Hello, > > As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you > guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? > > My current stack is: > > Pharo 2.0 > Seaside 3 (includin

Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread Pavel Krivanek
You can modify or fix any part of the system including basic "libraries" very easily and thanks to relativelly small, friendly and open community you can have as a single person greater influence on future Pharo development than in any other mentioned environment. Safer investition :-) -- Pavel 2

Re: [Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread Stephan Eggermont
I'd add as a development environment to the stack: MOOSE Creating visibility in what you're building http://vimeo.com/63320261 Stephan

[Pharo-users] The Pharo Advantage: what is it for you?

2013-08-23 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Hello, As part of the defense of a budget and technology choices, what would you guys list as a key advantage of using Pharo for creating software solutions? My current stack is: Pharo 2.0 Seaside 3 (including Seaside-REST) Magritte 3 Twitter Bootstrap + a couple of data storage stuff (DBXTalk,

Re: [Pharo-users] Trait composition on runtime

2013-08-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 23.08.2013 um 09:34 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse : >> >>> Hi Norbert, >>> >>> It sounds like you want something like talents Talents >>> http://scg.unibe.ch/research/bifrost/talents. >>> However, there is no running version on pharo 3.0 yet. >>> >>> I am not aware of work on object-specific tr

Re: [Pharo-users] Trait composition on runtime

2013-08-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
IDE is support key as Johan mentioned. Then the question is what is the correct granularity that will suit future users of a trait. Stef

Re: [Pharo-users] Trait composition on runtime

2013-08-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> >> Hi Norbert, >> >> It sounds like you want something like talents Talents >> http://scg.unibe.ch/research/bifrost/talents. >> However, there is no running version on pharo 3.0 yet. >> >> I am not aware of work on object-specific traits, I could be wrong though. >> > you might be right. The