Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-18 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 11:06 -0500, Jonah H. Harris wrote: > On Nov 16, 2007 10:56 AM, Dave Dutcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know about that. There are times when it is the right plan: > > Agreed. IMHO, there's nothing wrong with nested-loop join as long as > it's being used proper

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-16 Thread Jonah H. Harris
On Nov 16, 2007 3:36 PM, Josh Trutwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Agreed. IMHO, there's nothing wrong with nested-loop join as long > > as it's being used properly. > > Can you explain further please? (I'm not disagreeing with you, just > want to know when nested loops are not used properly -

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-16 Thread Josh Trutwin
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:06:11 -0500 "Jonah H. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 16, 2007 10:56 AM, Dave Dutcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know about that. There are times when it is the right > > plan: > > Agreed. IMHO, there's nothing wrong with nested-loop join as long >

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-16 Thread Ivan Voras
Dimitri wrote: > Reading this article I'm just happy for them to see progress done on FreeBSD > :-) > As well to demonstrate OS parallelism it's not so impressive to see > 4CPU server results rather 8CPU or 32threaded Niagara... Don't know > why they did not present similar performance graphs for

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-16 Thread Jonah H. Harris
On Nov 16, 2007 10:56 AM, Dave Dutcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know about that. There are times when it is the right plan: Agreed. IMHO, there's nothing wrong with nested-loop join as long as it's being used properly. -- Jonah H. Harris, Sr. Software Architect | phone: 732.331.1

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-16 Thread Dave Dutcher
> -Original Message- > From: Ow Mun Heng > Subject: Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD > > Even for Postgresql, nested loops are still evil and hampers > performance. I don't know about that. There are times when it is the right plan: explai

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-16 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 16:41 +0100, Sebastian Hennebrueder wrote: > If the queries are complex, this is understable. I had a performance > review of a Hibernate project (Java Object Relation Mapping) using > MySQL. ORM produces easily "complex" queries with joins and subqueries. > MySQL uses neste

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-12 Thread Erik Jones
On Nov 11, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Dimitri wrote: Seems to me there is more thread model implementation problem on FreeBSD, and databases just reflecting it... Most of the test I done on Solaris show the same performance level on the same short READ- only queries for MySQL a

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-12 Thread Shane Ambler
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 08:27:02PM +0100, Dimitri wrote: As well to demonstrate OS parallelism it's not so impressive to see 4CPU server results rather 8CPU or 32threaded Niagara... Don't know why they did not present similar performance graphs for these platform, str

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-11 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 08:27:02PM +0100, Dimitri wrote: > As well to demonstrate OS parallelism it's not so impressive to see > 4CPU server results rather 8CPU or 32threaded Niagara... Don't know > why they did not present similar performance graphs for these > platform, strange no?... I guess it

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-11 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Dimitri wrote: Seems to me there is more thread model implementation problem on FreeBSD, and databases just reflecting it... Most of the test I done on Solaris show the same performance level on the same short READ-only queries for MySQL and PostgreSQL. And to be honest till the end, thread mode

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-11 Thread Dimitri
Seems to me there is more thread model implementation problem on FreeBSD, and databases just reflecting it... Most of the test I done on Solaris show the same performance level on the same short READ-only queries for MySQL and PostgreSQL. And to be honest till the end, thread model should be far f

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-09 Thread Ron Mayer
Bill Moran wrote: > On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:11:18 -0500 (EST) > Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Sebastian Hennebrueder wrote: >>> If the queries are complex, this is understable. >> The queries used for this comparison are trivial. There's only one table >> involved and

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-09 Thread Bill Moran
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:11:18 -0500 (EST) Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Sebastian Hennebrueder wrote: > > > If the queries are complex, this is understable. > > The queries used for this comparison are trivial. There's only one table > involved and there are no join

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-09 Thread Greg Smith
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Sebastian Hennebrueder wrote: If the queries are complex, this is understable. The queries used for this comparison are trivial. There's only one table involved and there are no joins. It's testing very low-level aspects of performance. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-09 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Nov 9, 2007 9:41 AM, Sebastian Hennebrueder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the queries are complex, this is understable. I had a performance > review of a Hibernate project (Java Object Relation Mapping) using > MySQL. ORM produces easily "complex" queries with joins and subqueries. > MySQL use

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-09 Thread Erik Jones
On Nov 9, 2007, at 6:06 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: Hi, I just read this document and thought I should share it with this list: http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf Among other things (FreeBSD advocacy, mostly :) ), it contains a direct comparison between MySQL and Postgr

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-09 Thread Sebastian Hennebrueder
> > Among other things (FreeBSD advocacy, mostly :) ), it contains a direct > comparison between MySQL and PostgreSQL on various platforms, with > PostgreSQL winning! > Hello, If the queries are complex, this is understable. I had a performance review of a Hibernate project (Java Object Relati

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs MySQL, and FreeBSD

2007-11-09 Thread Jonah H. Harris
On Nov 9, 2007 7:06 AM, Ivan Voras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just read this document and thought I should share it with this list: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20Preview.pdf Nice presentation. Thanks for posting it on here. > Among other things (FreeBSD advocacy, mostly :