Re: [PERFORM] Performance Implications of Using Exceptions

2008-04-09 Thread Decibel!
On Mar 31, 2008, at 8:23 PM, Ravi Chemudugunta wrote: In general I would recommend that you benchmark them using as-close-to-real load as possible again as-real-as-possible data. I am running a benchmark with around 900,000 odd records (real-load on the live machine :o ) ... should show hopef

Re: [PERFORM] Performance Implications of Using Exceptions

2008-04-06 Thread James Mansion
Robins Tharakan wrote: I think James was talking about Sybase. Postgresql on the other hand has a slightly better way to do this. SELECT ... FOR UPDATE allows you to lock a given row (based on the SELECT ... WHERE clause) and update it... without worrying about a concurrent modification. Of

Re: [PERFORM] Performance Implications of Using Exceptions

2008-04-03 Thread Robins Tharakan
I think James was talking about Sybase. Postgresql on the other hand has a slightly better way to do this. SELECT ... FOR UPDATE allows you to lock a given row (based on the SELECT ... WHERE clause) and update it... without worrying about a concurrent modification. Of course, if the SELECT ... WHE

Re: [PERFORM] Performance Implications of Using Exceptions

2008-04-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I find myself having to do this in Sybase, but it sucks because there's > a race - if there's no row updated then there's no lock and you race > another thread doing the same thing. So you grab a row lock on a > sacrificial row used as a mutex, or just a table lock. Or you just > accept that some

Re: [PERFORM] Performance Implications of Using Exceptions

2008-04-02 Thread James Mansion
Stephen Denne wrote: A third option is to update, if not found, insert. I find myself having to do this in Sybase, but it sucks because there's a race - if there's no row updated then there's no lock and you race another thread doing the same thing. So you grab a row lock on a sacrificial ro

Re: [PERFORM] Performance Implications of Using Exceptions

2008-03-31 Thread Tom Lane
"Robins Tharakan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Would it fine to consider that an UPDATE query that found no records to > update is (performance wise) the same as a SELECT query with the same WHERE > clause ? > As in, does an UPDATE query perform additional overhead even before it finds > the reco

Re: [PERFORM] Performance Implications of Using Exceptions

2008-03-31 Thread Robins Tharakan
Coming to think of it. Would it fine to consider that an UPDATE query that found no records to update is (performance wise) the same as a SELECT query with the same WHERE clause ? As in, does an UPDATE query perform additional overhead even before it finds the record to work on ? *Robins* On T

Re: [PERFORM] Performance Implications of Using Exceptions

2008-03-31 Thread Ravi Chemudugunta
Hi, thanks for the quick reply. > In general I would recommend that you benchmark them using > as-close-to-real load as possible again as-real-as-possible data. I am running a benchmark with around 900,000 odd records (real-load on the live machine :o ) ... should show hopefully some good bench

Re: [PERFORM] Performance Implications of Using Exceptions

2008-03-31 Thread Stephen Denne
Stephen Frost wrote > * Ravi Chemudugunta ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Which version is faster? > > In general I would recommend that you benchmark them using > as-close-to-real load as possible again as-real-as-possible data. > > > Does the exception mechanism add any overhead? > > Yes, using

Re: [PERFORM] Performance Implications of Using Exceptions

2008-03-31 Thread Stephen Frost
* Ravi Chemudugunta ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Which version is faster? In general I would recommend that you benchmark them using as-close-to-real load as possible again as-real-as-possible data. > Does the exception mechanism add any overhead? Yes, using exceptions adds a fair bit of overhea