Re: [PERFORM] SSD options, small database, ZFS

2011-11-23 Thread Amitabh Kant
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Amitabh Kant wrote:> > > > > > On a slightly unrelated note, you had once ( > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2011-08/msg00944.php) said > to > > limit shared_buffers max to 8 GB on Linux and leave the rest for OS > > caching

Re: [PERFORM] SSD options, small database, ZFS

2011-11-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
Amitabh Kant wrote: > > The whole memorys speed topic is also much more complicated than any > > simple explanation can cover. How many banks of RAM you can use > > effectively changes based on the number of CPUs and associated chipset too. > > Someone just sent me an explanation recently of why

Re: [PERFORM] SSD options, small database, ZFS

2011-11-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
Greg Smith wrote: > The whole memorys speed topic is also much more complicated than any > simple explanation can cover. How many banks of RAM you can use > effectively changes based on the number of CPUs and associated chipset > too. Someone just sent me an explanation recently of why I was s

Re: [PERFORM] SSD options, small database, ZFS

2011-11-18 Thread Amitabh Kant
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Greg Smith wrote: > On 11/17/2011 10:44 PM, CSS wrote: > >> Is there any sort of simple documentation on the query planner that might >> cover how things like increased RAM could impact how a query is executed? >> > > There is no *simple* documentation on any part

Re: [PERFORM] SSD options, small database, ZFS

2011-11-18 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 18 Listopad 2011, 17:17, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Greg Smith wrote: >> On 11/17/2011 10:44 PM, CSS wrote: >>> >>> Is there any sort of simple documentation on the query planner that >>> might >>> cover how things like increased RAM could impact how a query is >>>

Re: [PERFORM] SSD options, small database, ZFS

2011-11-18 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Greg Smith wrote: > On 11/17/2011 10:44 PM, CSS wrote: >> >> Is there any sort of simple documentation on the query planner that might >> cover how things like increased RAM could impact how a query is executed? > > There is no *simple* documentation on any part of

Re: [PERFORM] SSD options, small database, ZFS

2011-11-18 Thread Greg Smith
On 11/17/2011 10:44 PM, CSS wrote: Is there any sort of simple documentation on the query planner that might cover how things like increased RAM could impact how a query is executed? There is no *simple* documentation on any part of the query planner that's also accurate. Query planning is i

Re: [PERFORM] SSD options, small database, ZFS

2011-11-17 Thread Arjen van der Meijden
On 18-11-2011 4:44 CSS wrote: Resurrecting this long-dormant thread... Btw, the 5500 and 5600 Xeons are normally more efficient with a multiple of 6 ram-modules, so you may want to have a look at 24GB (6x4), 36GB (6x4+6x2) or 48GB (12x4 or 6x8) RAM. Thanks - I really had a hard time wrappi

Re: [PERFORM] SSD options, small database, ZFS

2011-11-17 Thread CSS
Resurrecting this long-dormant thread... On Oct 14, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Arjen van der Meijden wrote: > On 14-10-2011 10:23, CSS wrote: >> -I'm calling our combined databases at 133GB "small", fair >> assumption? -Is there any chance that a server with dual quad core >> xeons, 32GB RAM, and 2 or 4

Re: [PERFORM] SSD options, small database, ZFS

2011-10-14 Thread Arjen van der Meijden
On 14-10-2011 10:23, CSS wrote: -I'm calling our combined databases at 133GB "small", fair assumption? -Is there any chance that a server with dual quad core xeons, 32GB RAM, and 2 or 4 SSDs (assume mirrored) could be slower than the 4 old servers described above? I'm beating those on raw cpu,

[PERFORM] SSD options, small database, ZFS

2011-10-14 Thread CSS
Hello all, I've spent some time looking through previous posts regarding postgres and SSD drives and have also been reading up on the subject of SSDs in general elsewhere. Some quick background: We're currently looking at changing our basic database setup as we migrate away from some rather old