Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-13 Thread Ray Stell
I had such great hopes for this thread. "Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio ..." On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:00:54AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Gregory Stark wrote: > > >In any case I wouldn't think the use case for a feature like this would > >actually apply in the

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-13 Thread Philippe Amelant
Le mercredi 11 juillet 2007 à 13:37 -0300, André Gomes Lamas Otero a écrit : > I don't this so, because DB2 is running on a Sun Sparc T1 processor > (http://www.sun.com/processors/UltraSPARC-T1/) that's implements much > more features, like thread level parelelism, than AMD Opteron. > > the DB2

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-12 Thread Greg Smith
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Gregory Stark wrote: In any case I wouldn't think the use case for a feature like this would actually apply in the case of a benchmark. I've also seen a tiny setting for commit_delay (like the 10 they used) as helping improve throughput under a heavy commit load with many

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-12 Thread Gregory Stark
"Stefan Kaltenbrunner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jignesh K. Shah wrote: >> Can you list others that seemed out of place? The one which surprised me the most was the commit_delay setting. What results led you to set that? The common wisdom on this setting is that it doesn't accomplish its goa

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-12 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Jignesh K. Shah wrote: > Can you list others that seemed out of place? well to me the ones that look most questionable are: work_mem=100MB - so this benchmark is really low concurrency(which does not fit with max_connections=1000) and with trivial queries ? enable_seqscan = off - why ? effectiv

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-11 Thread Jignesh K. Shah
Can you list others that seemed out of place? Thanks. Regards, Jignesh Tom Lane wrote: "Jignesh K. Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Heikki Linnakangas wrote: May I ask you why you set max_prepared_transactions to 450, while you're apparently not using prepared transactions, accordin

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-11 Thread Tom Lane
"Jignesh K. Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Heikki Linnakangas wrote: >> May I ask you why you set max_prepared_transactions to 450, while >> you're apparently not using prepared transactions, according to this >> quote: > Yep.. one of the things that we didn't revert back and got strayed ou

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-11 Thread André Gomes Lamas Otero
I don't this so, because DB2 is running on a Sun Sparc T1 processor (http://www.sun.com/processors/UltraSPARC-T1/) that's implements much more features, like thread level parelelism, than AMD Opteron. the DB2 installation: J2EE AppServer HW (SUT hardware) Hardware Vendor: Sun Microsystems

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-11 Thread Jignesh K. Shah
Heikki Linnakangas wrote: May I ask you why you set max_prepared_transactions to 450, while you're apparently not using prepared transactions, according to this quote: Recoverable 2-phase transactions were used to coordinate the interaction between the database server and JMS server usi

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-11 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
Jignesh K. Shah wrote: Hello all, I think this result will be useful for performance discussions of postgresql against other databases. http://www.spec.org/jAppServer2004/results/res2007q3/ More on Josh Berkus's blog: http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/database/soup/archives/postgresql-publishes-fi

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-11 Thread Jignesh K. Shah
Its hard to do direct comparison since that one used a different commercial application server than the PostgreSQL test.. As we do more tests with the help of the community, hopefully we can understand where the CPU cycles are spent and see how to make them more efficient... Stay tuned!! -Jig

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-11 Thread Philippe Amelant
am I wrong or DB2 9.1 is faster on less powerfull hardware ? Le lundi 09 juillet 2007 à 11:57 -0400, Jignesh K. Shah a écrit : > Hello all, > > I think this result will be useful for performance discussions of > postgresql against other databases. > > http://www.spec.org/jAppServer2004/results/

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-10 Thread Heiko W.Rupp
Hi, I think this result will be useful for performance discussions of postgresql against other databases. http://www.spec.org/jAppServer2004/results/res2007q3/ More on Josh Berkus's blog: http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/database/soup/archives/postgresql- publishes-first-real-benchmark-17470

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 01:48:44PM -0400, Jignesh K. Shah wrote: > > Hi Heikki, > > Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > > > >That's really exciting news! > > > >I'm sure you spent a lot of time tweaking the settings, so let me ask > >you something topical: > > > >How did you end up with the bgwriter set

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Jonah H. Harris
On 7/9/07, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: PostgreSQL still beats MySQL ;) Agreed. -- Jonah H. Harris, Software Architect | phone: 732.331.1324 EnterpriseDB Corporation| fax: 732.331.1301 33 Wood Ave S, 3rd Floor| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Iselin, New Jersey 08830

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Jonah H. Harris wrote: On 7/9/07, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There's just enough hardware differences between the two configurations that it's not quite a fair fight. For example, the MySQL test had 10K RPM drives in the database server storage array, while the PostgreSQL one had 1

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Jonah H. Harris
On 7/9/07, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There's just enough hardware differences between the two configurations that it's not quite a fair fight. For example, the MySQL test had 10K RPM drives in the database server storage array, while the PostgreSQL one had 15K RPM ones. A few other

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Greg Smith
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Joshua D. Drake wrote: I would note that if you track through the other results that we indeed beat MySQL ;) There's just enough hardware differences between the two configurations that it's not quite a fair fight. For example, the MySQL test had 10K RPM drives in the da

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jul 9, 2007, at 1:02 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: It is also the reason that those in the know typically ignore all benchmarks and do their own testing. Heresy! ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Magnus Hagander
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:57:13AM -0400, Jignesh K. Shah wrote: >>> I think this result will be useful for performance discussions of >>> postgresql against other databases. >>> >>> http://www.spec.org/jAppServer2004/results/res2007q3/ >> >>

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Jignesh K. Shah
Hi Heikki, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: That's really exciting news! I'm sure you spent a lot of time tweaking the settings, so let me ask you something topical: How did you end up with the bgwriter settings you used? Did you experiment with different values? How much difference did it make?

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:57:13AM -0400, Jignesh K. Shah wrote: I think this result will be useful for performance discussions of postgresql against other databases. http://www.spec.org/jAppServer2004/results/res2007q3/ Am I right if this is for a T2000 (Niagara)

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:57:13AM -0400, Jignesh K. Shah wrote: > I think this result will be useful for performance discussions of > postgresql against other databases. > > http://www.spec.org/jAppServer2004/results/res2007q3/ Am I right if this is for a T2000 (Niagara) database server? It sure

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
Jignesh K. Shah wrote: Hello all, I think this result will be useful for performance discussions of postgresql against other databases. http://www.spec.org/jAppServer2004/results/res2007q3/ More on Josh Berkus's blog: http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/database/soup/archives/postgresql-publishes-fi

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Jonah H. Harris wrote: On 7/9/07, Jignesh K. Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think this result will be useful for performance discussions of postgresql against other databases. I'm happy to see an industry-standard benchmark result for PostgreSQL. Great work guys! I would note that if you

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Jonah H. Harris
On 7/9/07, Jignesh K. Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think this result will be useful for performance discussions of postgresql against other databases. I'm happy to see an industry-standard benchmark result for PostgreSQL. Great work guys! -- Jonah H. Harris, Software Architect | phone: 73

[PERFORM] PostgreSQL publishes first real benchmark

2007-07-09 Thread Jignesh K. Shah
Hello all, I think this result will be useful for performance discussions of postgresql against other databases. http://www.spec.org/jAppServer2004/results/res2007q3/ More on Josh Berkus's blog: http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/database/soup/archives/postgresql-publishes-first-real-benchmark-17470