Re: [PERFORM] 8.4 optimization regression?

2011-08-23 Thread Mark Kirkwood
On 24/08/11 15:15, Tom Lane wrote: Hmmm ... this is structurally a pretty simple query, so I'm surprised that 8.3 and 8.4 see it very much differently. The relation-level estimates and plan choices are very nearly the same; the only thing that's changed much is the estimates of the join sizes,

Re: [PERFORM] 8.4 optimization regression?

2011-08-23 Thread Mark Kirkwood
On 24/08/11 15:15, Tom Lane wrote: Mark Kirkwood writes: I am in the progress of an 8.3 to 8.4 upgrade for a customer. I seem to have stumbled upon what looks like a regression. The two databases (8.3.14 and 8.4.8) have identical tuning parameters (where that makes sense) and run on identical h

Re: [PERFORM] RAID Controllers

2011-08-23 Thread Greg Smith
On 08/23/2011 06:42 PM, David Boreham wrote: I took a look at Areca. The fan on the controller board is a big warning signal for me (those fans are in my experience the single most unreliable component ever used in computers). I have one of their really early/cheap models here, purchased in ear

Re: [PERFORM] 8.4 optimization regression?

2011-08-23 Thread Tom Lane
Mark Kirkwood writes: > I am in the progress of an 8.3 to 8.4 upgrade for a customer. I seem to > have stumbled upon what looks like a regression. The two databases > (8.3.14 and 8.4.8) have identical tuning parameters (where that makes > sense) and run on identical hardware. Both databases are

Re: [PERFORM] RAID Controllers

2011-08-23 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 4:42 PM, David Boreham wrote: > On 8/22/2011 10:55 PM, Scott Marlowe wrote: >> >> If you're running linux and thus stuck with the command line on the >> LSI, I'd recommend anything else.  MegaRAID is the hardest RAID >> control software to use I've ever seen.  If you can sp

Re: [PERFORM] RAID Controllers

2011-08-23 Thread David Boreham
On 8/22/2011 10:55 PM, Scott Marlowe wrote: If you're running linux and thus stuck with the command line on the LSI, I'd recommend anything else. MegaRAID is the hardest RAID control software to use I've ever seen. If you can spring for the money, get the Areca 1680: http://www.newegg.com/Produ

Re: [PERFORM] RAID Controllers

2011-08-23 Thread Alan Hodgson
On August 22, 2011 09:55:33 PM Scott Marlowe wrote: > > If you're running linux and thus stuck with the command line on the > LSI, I'd recommend anything else. MegaRAID is the hardest RAID > control software to use I've ever seen. If you can spring for the > money, get the Areca 1680: > http://ww

Re: [PERFORM] RAID Controllers

2011-08-23 Thread David Boreham
On 8/23/2011 5:14 AM, Robert Schnabel wrote: I'm by no means an expert but it seems to me if you're going to choose between two 6 GB/s cards you may as well put SAS2 drives in. I have two Adaptec 6445 cards in one of my boxes and several other Adaptec series 5 controllers in others. They su

Re: [PERFORM] RAID Controllers

2011-08-23 Thread Robert Schnabel
On 8/22/2011 9:42 PM, David Boreham wrote: I'm buying a bunch of new machines (all will run an application that heavily writes to PG). These machines will have 2 spindle groups in a RAID-1 config. Drives will be either 15K SAS, or 10K SATA (I haven't decided if it is better to buy the faster dri