[PERFORM] Increasing RAM for more than 4 Gb. using postgresql

2005-01-11 Thread amrit
I wonder if I would like to increase more RAM from 4 Gb. to 6 Gb. [which I hope to increase more performance ] and I now I used RH 9 and Pgsql 7.3.2 ON DUAL Xeon 3.0 server thay has the limtation of 4 Gb. ram, I should use which OS between FC 2-3 or redhat EL 3 [which was claimed to support 64 Gb.

Re: [ADMIN] [PERFORM] Assimilation of these "versus" and hardware threads

2005-01-11 Thread Josh Berkus
Matt, > I had one comment on the pg_autovacuum section. Near the bottom it > lists some of it's limitations, and I want to clarify the 1st one: "Does > not reset the transaction counter". I assume this is talking about the > xid wraparound problem? If so, then that bullet can be removed. > pg_a

Re: [PERFORM] Assimilation of these "versus" and hardware threads

2005-01-11 Thread Josh Berkus
People: > All of these recent threads about fastest hardware and "who's better than > who" has inspired me to create a new website: > > http://www.dbtuning.org Well, time to plug my web site, too, I guess: http://www.powerpostgresql.com I've got a configuration primer up there, and the 8.0 Annot

[PERFORM] Assimilation of these "versus" and hardware threads

2005-01-11 Thread Christian Fowler
All of these recent threads about fastest hardware and "who's better than who" has inspired me to create a new website: http://www.dbtuning.org I snipped a few bits from recent posts to get some pages started - hope the innocent don't mind. It's a bit postgres biased at the moment, since well,

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs. Oracle vs. Microsoft

2005-01-11 Thread Gary Doades
Dave Cramer wrote: I understand that but I have seen VM's crash. This does bring up another point. Since postgresql is not threaded a .NET pl would require a separate VM for each connection (unless you can share the vm ?). One of the java pl's (pl-j) for postgres has dealt with this issue. For

Re: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL?

2005-01-11 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 08:31:22PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Unless something has changed though, you can't run raid 10 with linux software raid Hm, why not? What stops you from making two RAID-0 devices and mirroring those? (Or the other way round, I can nev

Re: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL?

2005-01-11 Thread Greg Stark
"Merlin Moncure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > heh, our apps do tend to be CPU bound. Generally, I think the extra CPU > horsepower is worth the investment until you get to the really high end > cpus. I find that while most applications I work with shouldn't be cpu intensive they do seem end up

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs. Oracle vs. Microsoft

2005-01-11 Thread Richard_D_Levine
Jim wrote: you'd be hard-pressed to find too many real-world examples where you could do something with a PostgreSQL procedural language that you couldn't do with PL/SQL. Rick mumbled: You can't get it for nothing! %)

Re: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL?

2005-01-11 Thread Rosser Schwarz
while you weren't looking, Greg Stark wrote: > Back in the day, we used to have problems with our 1U dual pentiums. We > attributed it to heat accelerating failure. I would fear four opterons in 1U > would be damned hard to cool effectively, no? Opterons actually run pretty coolly, comparatively.

Re: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL?

2005-01-11 Thread Merlin Moncure
> $4000 is not going to get you much disk - If you buy components from > the cheapest source I know (newegg.com) you end up around $5k with > 14x36gig Raptor SATA drives and a 4U chasis with a 14xSATA built in > back plane packing 2x9500S AMCC Escalade RAID cards, which are > supported in Linux, 4G

Re: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL?

2005-01-11 Thread Alex Turner
$4000 is not going to get you much disk - If you buy components from the cheapest source I know (newegg.com) you end up around $5k with 14x36gig Raptor SATA drives and a 4U chasis with a 14xSATA built in back plane packing 2x9500S AMCC Escalade RAID cards, which are supported in Linux, 4Gig RAM and

Re: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL?

2005-01-11 Thread Greg Stark
Rosser Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Try also the Appro 1U 4-way Opteron server, at: > http://www.appro.com/product/server_1142h.asp Back in the day, we used to have problems with our 1U dual pentiums. We attributed it to heat accelerating failure. I would fear four opterons in 1U would b

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs. Oracle vs. Microsoft

2005-01-11 Thread Alex Turner
Connect to an external data system using a socket and propagate data changes using a trigger... I've had to do this, and it sucks to be stuck in Oracle! Alex Turner NetEconomist On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:29:52 -0600, Jim C. Nasby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 12:46:01PM -0500

Re: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL?

2005-01-11 Thread Rosser Schwarz
while you weren't looking, Merlin Moncure wrote: > 2 way or 4 way Opteron depending on needs (looking on a price for 4-way? > Go here: http://www.swt.com/qo3.html). Try also the Appro 1U 4-way Opteron server, at: http://www.appro.com/product/server_1142h.asp I specced a 4-way 842 (1.6 GHz: litt

Re: [PERFORM] Best filesystem for PostgreSQL Database Cluster under Linux

2005-01-11 Thread Christopher Browne
After a long battle with technology, "Pete de Zwart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, an earthling, wrote: > Greetings to one and all, > > I've been trying to find some information on selecting an optimal > filesystem setup for a volume that will only contain a PostgreSQL Database > Cluster under Linux.

Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL vs. Oracle vs. Microsoft

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Cramer
I understand that but I have seen VM's crash. This does bring up another point. Since postgresql is not threaded a .NET pl would require a separate VM for each connection (unless you can share the vm ?). One of the java pl's (pl-j) for postgres has dealt with this issue. For a hundred connectio

Re: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL?

2005-01-11 Thread Merlin Moncure
> Subject: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL? > > I'm sorry if there's a URL out there answering this, but I couldn't find > it. > > For those of us that need the best performance possible out of a > dedicated dual-CPU PostgreSQL server, what is recommended? > > AMD6

Re: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL?

2005-01-11 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On 11 Jan 2005 04:25:04 GMT Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Xeon sux pretty bad... > > > Linux or FreeBSD or _?_ > > The killer question won't be of what OS is "faster," but rather of > what OS better supports the fastest hardware you can get your hands > on. Well, if multiple

Re: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL?

2005-01-11 Thread Grega Bremec
...and on Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 08:31:22PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake used the keyboard: > > > > >RAID controllers tend to use i960 or StrongARM CPUs that run at speeds > >that _aren't_ all that impressive. With software RAID, you can take > >advantage of the _enormous_ increases in the speed of the

Re: [PERFORM] which dual-CPU hardware/OS is fastest for PostgreSQL?

2005-01-11 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 08:31:22PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Unless something has changed though, you can't run raid 10 > with linux software raid Hm, why not? What stops you from making two RAID-0 devices and mirroring those? (Or the other way round, I can never remember :-) ) /* Steinar *