Re: [HACKERS] Safer auto-initdb for RPM init script

2006-08-25 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Freitag, 25. August 2006 16:54 schrieb Tom Lane: > No, it doesn't. (The Red Hat RPMs in fact did that ... for about > a week ... until I was told in no uncertain terms that we don't > start unnecessary daemons by default.) Well, there seem to be philosophical differences between the various op

Re: [HACKERS] Safer auto-initdb for RPM init script

2006-08-25 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Freitag, 25. August 2006 16:20 schrieb Tom Lane: >> It eats rather a lot of disk space for a package that might just be >> getting loaded as part of a system install, with no likelihood of >> actually being used. > Wouldn't the system install start

Re: [HACKERS] Safer auto-initdb for RPM init script

2006-08-25 Thread Gregory Stark
Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Comments? Anyone see a better way? Well the truly bullet-proof mechanism would be to check every data file on every open. You could have a header with some kind of unique tag generated at initdb time and the backend could ensure it matches the same tag in

Re: [HACKERS] Safer auto-initdb for RPM init script

2006-08-25 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Freitag, 25. August 2006 16:20 schrieb Tom Lane: > It eats rather a lot of disk space for a package that might just be > getting loaded as part of a system install, with no likelihood of > actually being used. Wouldn't the system install start the init script at the end of the installation pro

Re: [HACKERS] Safer auto-initdb for RPM init script

2006-08-25 Thread Tom Lane
"Magnus Hagander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I don't really want to remove the auto-initdb feature from the >> script, because it's important not to drive away newbies by making >> Postgres hard to start for the first time. But I think we'd better >> think about ways to make it more bulletproo

Re: [HACKERS] Safer auto-initdb for RPM init script

2006-08-25 Thread Magnus Hagander
> I don't really want to remove the auto-initdb feature from the > script, because it's important not to drive away newbies by making > Postgres hard to start for the first time. But I think we'd better > think about ways to make it more bulletproof. Why does initdb have to happen on startup? Wou

Re: [HACKERS] Safer auto-initdb for RPM init script

2006-08-25 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Freitag, 25. August 2006 15:19 schrieb Tom Lane: > I don't really want to remove the auto-initdb feature from the script, > because it's important not to drive away newbies by making Postgres > hard to start for the first time. But I think we'd better think about > ways to make it more bulletpr