Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: vacuum and autovacuum parameters to control freezing

2006-11-05 Thread Gregory Stark
"Simon Riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > vacuum_freeze_min The latest TransactionId that will be "frozen" during > a VACUUM is calculated by CurrentTransactionId - vacuum_freeze_min. > > vacuum_freeze_max > The maximum age, calculated as distance from CurrentTransactionId, that > will be al

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: vacuum and autovacuum parameters to control freezing

2006-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
"Simon Riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 12:01 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: >> After re-reading the above, it strikes me that maybe names based around >> "freeze_min" and "freeze_max" would be useful? > Works for me. They are clearly related, yet different and allow a > straight

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: vacuum and autovacuum parameters to control freezing

2006-11-05 Thread Simon Riggs
On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 12:01 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > After re-reading the above, it strikes me that maybe names based around > "freeze_min" and "freeze_max" would be useful? Works for me. They are clearly related, yet different and allow a straightforward explanation of their need and use. e.g.

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: vacuum and autovacuum parameters to control freezing

2006-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote: > "Simon Riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Perhaps you could edit the above if needed? > < Xids older than freeze_distance will be frozen whenever > next visited by VACUUM, but there is no forcing function > until they exceed freeze_limit >> In

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: vacuum and autovacuum parameters to control freezing

2006-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
"Heikki Linnakangas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think a global critical_age parameter is just fine. If you have one > huge table that takes a long time to vacuum, just adjust critical_age so > that there's enough time for the huge table vacuum to finish before > wrap-around. That means that

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: vacuum and autovacuum parameters to control freezing

2006-11-05 Thread Tom Lane
"Simon Riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > now we have agreed to have only 4 eras, IIRC: > 1. In Progress Transactions 0 - OldestXmin > < limit is OldestXmin > 2. Completed, normal Xids, status in clog > < limit is Freeze distance? > 3. Frozen Xids, tuples fr

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: vacuum and autovacuum parameters to control freezing

2006-11-05 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
Tom Lane wrote: * It might seem that there's no point in per-table adjustment of critical_age, since only the system-wide maximum means anything for resource consumption. I'm not so sure though --- for a really large table, the time needed to finish vacuuming it could be significant, meaning it

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: vacuum and autovacuum parameters to control freezing

2006-11-05 Thread Simon Riggs
On Sat, 2006-11-04 at 12:35 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > I wrote: > > It's usually going to be the case that the oldest datvacuumxid is > > template0's, meaning that it will never be possible to truncate clog > > until autovacuum decides that template0 is at risk of wraparound and > > goes and vacuums