Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-07 Thread Jim Nasby
On May 7, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Zdenek Kotala wrote: Jim Nasby wrote: And you describe current processes based on email communication. But if we setup some tracker some process will be changed. I think first step is determine what we really want and after we can discuss how to reach it. If we

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-07 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Jim Nasby wrote: People have suggested different trackers that have varying amounts of email capability, but I don't think any of them have had the full capability that we'd need. At best they might accept comments on a bug/issue via email, but to work for the community they'd need to go bey

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-06 Thread Jim Nasby
On May 5, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Dave Page wrote: Barring a few trivial details, that sounds almost identical to what I proposed. Well, Andrew says everyone he talks to doesn't want it. They want a more comprehensive solution that goes from bug to patch. I don't recall him saying that, tho

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-05 Thread Dave Page
> --- Original Message --- > From: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Dave Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 05/05/07, 11:06:37 > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking > > > > > > > Barring a few trivial details, tha

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, item modified to: Passes all regression tests, and if needed, adds new ones --- Zdenek Kotala wrote: > I would like to add one point: > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > Patch committers check several

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-05 Thread Zdenek Kotala
I would like to add one point: Bruce Momjian wrote: Patch committers check several things before applying a patch: 1) Follows the SQL standard or community agreed-upon behavior 2) Style merges seamlessly into the surrounding code 3) Written as simply and efficiently as possible 4) Uses th

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-05 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: >> Bruce Momjian wrote: >>> Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: > Dave Page wrote: >>> --- Original Message --- >>> From: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: PostgreSQL-development >>> Sent: 05/0

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-05 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Dave Page wrote: >> Barring a few trivial details, that sounds almost identical to what I proposed. > > Well, Andrew says everyone he talks to doesn't want it. They want a more comprehensive solution that goes from bug to patch. Dave can speak for his own views, but I thin

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > >> Bruce Momjian wrote: > >>> Dave Page wrote: > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: PostgreSQL-development > > Sent: 05/05/07, 03:00:25 > > S

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-05 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: >> Bruce Momjian wrote: >>> Dave Page wrote: > --- Original Message --- > From: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: PostgreSQL-development > Sent: 05/05/07, 03:00:25 > Subject: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Dave Page wrote: > >> > >>> --- Original Message --- > >>> From: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: PostgreSQL-development > >>> Sent: 05/05/07, 03:00:25 > >>> Subject: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking > >>> > >>> As for

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-05 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Dave Page wrote: >> >>> --- Original Message --- >>> From: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: PostgreSQL-development >>> Sent: 05/05/07, 03:00:25 >>> Subject: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking >>> >>> As for #3, again, I don't want us to take on a burdenso

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Dave Page wrote: > > > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: PostgreSQL-development > > Sent: 05/05/07, 03:00:25 > > Subject: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking > > > > As for #3, again, I don't want us to take on a burdensome patch tracking >

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-05 Thread Dave Page
> --- Original Message --- > From: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: PostgreSQL-development > Sent: 05/05/07, 03:00:25 > Subject: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking > > As for #3, again, I don't want us to take on a burdensome patch tracking > process that is more effort than i

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > I will say publicly what I have said to others privately. Forgive me if > I'm a bit blunter than usual. I do not see any value in this at all. > What we need to track are problems to be solved, be they bugs or > features, not particular patches. Tracking patches simply co

Re: [HACKERS] New idea for patch tracking

2007-05-04 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Bruce Momjian wrote: I have already responded to all the email comments. Here is my idea of moving forward. There are basically three interrelated issues: 1) bug tracking 2) getting more people to review complex patches 3) patch tracking I am not going to go into #1, except to say that