Re: [HACKERS] New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-05 Thread thomas graichen
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Yes, this double-writing is a problem. Suppose you have your WAL on a >> > separate drive. You can fsync() WAL with zero head movement. With a >> > log based file system, you need two head movements, so you have gone >> > from zero movements to two.

Re: [HACKERS] New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
[ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > I got some information from Stephen Tweedie on this - please keep him > "Cc:" as he's not on this list > > > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I was talking

Re: [HACKERS] New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Hi, > > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 01:49:54PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > Performance doing what? XFS has known performance problems doing > > > unlinks and truncates, but not synchronous IO. The user should be > > > using fdatasync() for databases, btw, not fsync(). > > > > This i

Re: [HACKERS] New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-04 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød
I got some information from Stephen Tweedie on this - please keep him "Cc:" as he's not on this list Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was talking to a Linux user yesterday, and he said that performance > using

Re: [HACKERS] New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
> > Yes, this double-writing is a problem. Suppose you have your WAL on a > > separate drive. You can fsync() WAL with zero head movement. With a > > log based file system, you need two head movements, so you have gone > > from zero movements to two. > > It may be worse depending on how the fi

Re: [HACKERS] New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010502 15:20] wrote: > > The "problem" with log based filesystems is that they most likely > > do not know the consequences of a write so an fsync on a file may > > require double writing to both the log and the "real" portion of > > the disk. They can also ex

Re: [HACKERS] New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010502 14:01] wrote: > I was talking to a Linux user yesterday, and he said that performance > using the xfs file system is pretty bad. He believes it has to do with > the fact that fsync() on log-based file systems requires more writes. > > With a standard B

Re: [HACKERS] New Linux xfs/reiser file systems

2001-05-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
> The "problem" with log based filesystems is that they most likely > do not know the consequences of a write so an fsync on a file may > require double writing to both the log and the "real" portion of > the disk. They can also exhibit the problem that an fsync may > cause all pending writes to