[HACKERS] TODO list updated for PG 10

2016-08-19 Thread Bruce Momjian
I have done my yearly TODO list cleanup, and I did more extensive item removal this time. There were a number of entries I could not figure out so if people want to review what is left and remove items that are undesired or done, please do that. Thanks. https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/T

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo list update for BRIN indexes

2016-01-17 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 07:54:43AM -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jeff Janes wrote: > > Is there anything in the below section which has been been implemented or > > rendered irrelevant by BRIN indexes? > > > > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo#Indexes > > > > "Con

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo list update for BRIN indexes

2015-12-21 Thread Simon Riggs
On 21 December 2015 at 14:38, Robert Haas wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Simon Riggs > wrote: > > On 21 December 2015 at 12:54, Robert Haas wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jeff Janes > wrote: > >> > Is there anything in the below section which has been been implemen

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo list update for BRIN indexes

2015-12-21 Thread Robert Haas
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Simon Riggs wrote: > On 21 December 2015 at 12:54, Robert Haas wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jeff Janes wrote: >> > Is there anything in the below section which has been been implemented >> > or >> > rendered irrelevant by BRIN indexes? >> > >> > h

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo list update for BRIN indexes

2015-12-21 Thread Simon Riggs
On 21 December 2015 at 12:54, Robert Haas wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jeff Janes wrote: > > Is there anything in the below section which has been been implemented or > > rendered irrelevant by BRIN indexes? > > > > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo#Indexes > > > > "Consider smal

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo list update for BRIN indexes

2015-12-21 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Jeff Janes wrote: > Is there anything in the below section which has been been implemented or > rendered irrelevant by BRIN indexes? > > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo#Indexes > > "Consider smaller indexes that record a range of values per heap page, > rather

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2015-10-27 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
On 16 October 2015 18:20:59 EEST, Bruce Momjian wrote: >I think on-disk bitmap indexes would only beat GIN indexes in a >read-only database on low-cardinality columns. For example, if you had >a purchase_log table and wanted to know all the "blue" and "large" >items >sold at a specific store, I

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2015-10-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:02:03PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Are you suggesting I remove those links? It is kind of odd to have > > links to patches for features we don't want, or just keep it? > > No, quite the contrary -- I think the links allow some other perso

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2015-10-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:00:11PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have spend the past few days updating our TODO list, removing > > completed and now-unnecessary items: > > > > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo > > Thanks. We have "TodoDone" pages for items tha

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2015-10-16 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Are you suggesting I remove those links? It is kind of odd to have > links to patches for features we don't want, or just keep it? No, quite the contrary -- I think the links allow some other person research the issue including the history of patches and discussion, and de

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2015-10-16 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have spend the past few days updating our TODO list, removing > completed and now-unnecessary items: > > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo Thanks. We have "TodoDone" pages for items that were done in specific releases, but only for 8.4, 9.0 and 9.1. I guess it

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2015-10-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:43:10AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Probably the most controvertial change was to move on-disk bitmap > > indexes to the "not wanted" section, though I kept the links in case we > > change our minds. I just can't see how they would be a win

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2015-10-16 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Probably the most controvertial change was to move on-disk bitmap > indexes to the "not wanted" section, though I kept the links in case we > change our minds. I just can't see how they would be a win with GIN and > in-memory bitmaps. Yeah, I recall we discussed bitmap ind

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2015-10-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:50:04PM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have spend the past few days updating our TODO list, removing > completed and now-unnecessary items: > >         https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo > > > >

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2015-10-16 Thread Amit Kapila
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have spend the past few days updating our TODO list, removing > completed and now-unnecessary items: > > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo > > Thanks. It can help encourage many new entrants to community. With Regards, Amit

[HACKERS] TODO list updates

2015-10-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
I have spend the past few days updating our TODO list, removing completed and now-unnecessary items: https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo I encourage others to also update the list to make it more accurate. Thanks. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB

[HACKERS] ToDo list update for BRIN indexes

2015-07-09 Thread Jeff Janes
Is there anything in the below section which has been been implemented or rendered irrelevant by BRIN indexes? https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo#Indexes "Consider smaller indexes that record a range of values per heap page, rather than having one index entry for every heap row" Cheers, Jeff

[HACKERS] TODO list updated for 9.3

2012-07-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
I have removed the completed 9.2 TODO items so people can start updating the TODO list completed items for 9.3. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + It's impossible for everything to be true. + -- Sent via pgsql-ha

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updated

2011-07-12 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Excerpts from Bruce Momjian's message of lun jul 11 18:58:35 -0400 2011: > > I have updated the TODO wiki to remove the 9.1-completed items: > > > > http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo > > > > This will allow us to now mark 9.2-completed items. > > I have created Tod

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updated

2011-07-12 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Bruce Momjian's message of lun jul 11 18:58:35 -0400 2011: > I have updated the TODO wiki to remove the 9.1-completed items: > > http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo > > This will allow us to now mark 9.2-completed items. I have created TodoDone91 from the items marked TodoDone

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo: list of active channels

2011-07-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
Pavel Stehule wrote: > Hello > > I use a LISTEN/NOTIFY. Now I have to check, if second application that > creates channels is active. It should be simple with system view of > active channels. I think you want pg_listening_channels(). -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB

[HACKERS] TODO list updated

2011-07-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
I have updated the TODO wiki to remove the 9.1-completed items: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo This will allow us to now mark 9.2-completed items. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + It's impossible

[HACKERS] ToDo: list of active channels

2011-06-29 Thread Pavel Stehule
Hello I use a LISTEN/NOTIFY. Now I have to check, if second application that creates channels is active. It should be simple with system view of active channels. Regards Pavel Stehule -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: ht

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-21 Thread Bruce Momjian
Robert Haas wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Simone Aiken > wrote: > > After playing with this in benchmarks and researching the weird results I > > got I'm going to advise dropping the todo for now unless something happens > > to change how postgres handles clustering. > > I agree, let'

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-20 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Simone Aiken wrote: > After playing with this in benchmarks and researching the weird results I > got I'm going to advise dropping the todo for now unless something happens > to change how postgres handles clustering. I agree, let's remove it. That having been sa

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-20 Thread Simone Aiken
After playing with this in benchmarks and researching the weird results I got I'm going to advise dropping the todo for now unless something happens to change how postgres handles clustering. You guys probably already grokked this so I am just recording it for the list archives. The primary

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-20 Thread Robert Haas
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Simone Aiken wrote: > In my experience size increases related to documentation are almost always > worth it.  So I'm prejudiced right out of the gate.  I was wondering if > every pg_ table gets copied out to every database ..  if there is already a > mechanism for

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-19 Thread Simone Aiken
> >I seem to recall some muttering about teaching genbki to extract such comments from the SGML sources or perhaps the C header files. I tend to agree though that it would be a lot >more work than it's worth. And as you say, pg_description entries aren't free. > I know I can't do all of the wor

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> Well, on my machine pg_description is about 210K (per database) as of >> HEAD.  90% of its contents are pg_proc entries, though I have no good >> fix on how much of that is for internal-use-only functions.  A very >> rough

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-19 Thread Robert Haas
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >>> Which brings up another point though. I have a personal TODO item to >>> make the comments for operator support functions more consistent: >>> http://archives.postgresql

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> Which brings up another point though. I have a personal TODO item to >> make the comments for operator support functions more consistent: >> http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/21407.1287157...@sss.pgh.pa.us >> Should

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-19 Thread Robert Haas
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Simone Aiken >> wrote: >>> Pages like this one have column comments for the system tables: >>> >>> http://www.psql.it/manuale/8.3/catalog-pg-attribute.html > >> Oh, I see.  I don't think we

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-19 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Robert Haas's message of mié ene 19 15:25:00 -0300 2011: > Oh, I see. I don't think we want to go there. We'd need some kind of > system for keeping the two places in sync. Maybe autogenerate both the .sgml and the postgres.description files from a single source. > And there'd be

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Simone Aiken > wrote: >> Pages like this one have column comments for the system tables: >> >> http://www.psql.it/manuale/8.3/catalog-pg-attribute.html > Oh, I see. I don't think we want to go there. We'd need some kind of > system for ke

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-19 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Simone Aiken wrote: > Pages like this one have column comments for the system tables: > > http://www.psql.it/manuale/8.3/catalog-pg-attribute.html Oh, I see. I don't think we want to go there. We'd need some kind of system for keeping the two places in sync. An

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-19 Thread Simone Aiken
> Robert > > I think the first > thing to do would be to try to come up with a reproducible test case > where clustering the tables improves performance. > On that note, is there any standard way you guys do benchmarks? > Bruce > >I think CLUSTER is a win when you are looking up multiple

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-18 Thread Simone Aiken
-Original Message- From: Robert Haas [mailto:robertmh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:53 PM To: Simone Aiken Cc: Alvaro Herrera; pgsql-hackers Subject: Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering >Sure - my point is just that we usually have a

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Simone Aiken wrote: > When I'm learning a new system I like to first learn how to use it, > second learn its data model, third start seriously looking at the code. > So that Todo is ideal for my learning method. Sure - my point is just that we usually have as a c

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-18 Thread Bruce Momjian
Robert Haas wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Alvaro Herrera > wrote: > > Excerpts from Simone Aiken's message of dom ene 16 02:11:26 -0300 2011: > >> > >> Hello Postgres Hackers, > >> > >> In reference to this todo item about clustering system table indexes, > >> ( http://archives.postgre

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-18 Thread Simone Aiken
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: >> Excerpts from Simone Aiken's message of dom ene 16 02:11:26 -0300 2011: >>> >> >Hello Postgres Hackers, >>> >> >In reference to this todo item about clustering system table indexes, >>> ( http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2004

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-18 Thread Simone Aiken
On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:35 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: >> > > Wow, this is really old stuff. I don't know if this is really of any > benefit, given that these catalogs are loaded into syscaches anyway. The benefit is educational primarily. I was looking for a todo list item that would expose me

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Excerpts from Simone Aiken's message of dom ene 16 02:11:26 -0300 2011: >> >> Hello Postgres Hackers, >> >> In reference to this todo item about clustering system table indexes, >> ( http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2004-05/msg00

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-18 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Simone Aiken's message of dom ene 16 02:11:26 -0300 2011: > > Hello Postgres Hackers, BTW whatever you do, don't start a new thread by replying to an existing message and just changing the subject line. It will mess up the threading for some readers, and some might not even see you

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-18 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Simone Aiken's message of dom ene 16 02:11:26 -0300 2011: > > Hello Postgres Hackers, > > In reference to this todo item about clustering system table indexes, > > ( http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2004-05/msg00989.php ) > I have been studying the system ta

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-17 Thread Simone Aiken
Followup on System Table Index clustering ToDo - It looks like to implement this I need to do the following: 1 - Add statements to indexing.h to cluster the selected indexes. A do-nothing define at the top to suppress warnings and then lines below for perl to pars

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-16 Thread Simone Aiken
>> Select typoutput::oid from pg_type limit 1; > Also, you *can* go back the other way. It's very common to write > > Select * from pg_proc where oid = 'boolout'::regproc > > rather than looking up the OID first. > see "Object Identifier Types" in the manual. Many thanks

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-16 Thread Tom Lane
Nicolas Barbier writes: > 2011/1/16 Simone Aiken : >>... So even though the documentation says that column >>maps to pg_proc.oid I can't then write: >>Select * from pg_proc where oid = 'boolout'; > Type type of typoutput is "regproc", which is really an oid with a

Re: [HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-16 Thread Nicolas Barbier
2011/1/16 Simone Aiken : >        is there a way to make queries on the system tables show me what >        is actually there when I'm poking around?  So for example: > >                Select * from pg_type limit 1; > >        tells me that the typoutput is 'boolout'.  An english string rather >

[HACKERS] ToDo List Item - System Table Index Clustering

2011-01-16 Thread Simone Aiken
Hello Postgres Hackers, In reference to this todo item about clustering system table indexes, ( http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2004-05/msg00989.php ) I have been studying the system tables to see which would benefit from clustering. I have some index suggestions and a

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2010-03-31 Thread Hitoshi Harada
2010/3/27 Tom Lane : > Robert Haas writes: >> In reading through the TODO list, I noticed a few things that I think >> are done, may be done, or may be partially done.  See below. >> Thoughts?  ...Robert > >> Implement full support for window framing clauses. >> - Not sure if we made any progress

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2010-03-31 Thread Bruce Momjian
Robert Haas wrote: > In reading through the TODO list, I noticed a few things that I think > are done, may be done, or may be partially done. See below. > Thoughts? ...Robert > > Add missing operators for geometric data types > - this is at least partly done. not sure if it is entirely done. >

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2010-03-31 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: > > In reading through the TODO list, I noticed a few things that I think > > are done, may be done, or may be partially done. See below. > > Thoughts? ...Robert > > > Add missing operators for geometric data types > > - this is at least partly done. not s

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2010-03-26 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > As far as I know, exclusion constraints would work with hash opclasses > also. Yeah, they do. > Do you think there's an advantage to having something that is > hash-specific a la the btree-specific stuff we already have? Sure: it'll be more efficient because of not needing

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2010-03-26 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: >> In reading through the TODO list, I noticed a few things that I think >> are done, may be done, or may be partially done.  See below. >> Thoughts?  ...Robert > >> Add missing operators for geometric data types >> - this is

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list updates

2010-03-26 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > In reading through the TODO list, I noticed a few things that I think > are done, may be done, or may be partially done. See below. > Thoughts? ...Robert > Add missing operators for geometric data types > - this is at least partly done. not sure if it is entirely done. I

[HACKERS] TODO list updates

2010-03-26 Thread Robert Haas
In reading through the TODO list, I noticed a few things that I think are done, may be done, or may be partially done. See below. Thoughts? ...Robert Add missing operators for geometric data types - this is at least partly done. not sure if it is entirely done. Add OR REPLACE to CREATE LANGUAG

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list request: FK to unique expression indexes

2008-11-20 Thread Robert Haas
> Allowing foreign keys to point to expression indexes seems to open a can > of worms and I am not sure there is enough demand to warrant it. It does open a can of worms. I've often wanting something related, which is the ability to make a foreign key references a PARTIAL index. ...Robert -- S

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list request: FK to unique expression indexes

2008-11-20 Thread Bruce Momjian
David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Nov 19, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Josh Berkus wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > Since it's too late to look at this for 8.4, can the following go on > > the TODO list? > > > > Referential Integrity > > > > [] Allow creation of FKs targeting unique expression indexes on the > > r

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list request: FK to unique expression indexes

2008-11-19 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Nov 19, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Josh Berkus wrote: Folks, Since it's too late to look at this for 8.4, can the following go on the TODO list? Referential Integrity [] Allow creation of FKs targeting unique expression indexes on the referenced table. Syntax: REFERENCES ( ( column express

[HACKERS] TODO list request: FK to unique expression indexes

2008-11-19 Thread Josh Berkus
Folks, Since it's too late to look at this for 8.4, can the following go on the TODO list? Referential Integrity [] Allow creation of FKs targeting unique expression indexes on the referenced table. Syntax: REFERENCES ( ( column expression ) ) Reason: current FK rules do not allow creati

Re: [HACKERS] TODO-list on wiki (was: TODO update about SQLSTATE to PGconn)

2008-03-12 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tom Lane wrote: > >> Actually, the part of the current process that a wiki would fail to > >> reproduce is the emails that Bruce sends out about TODO changes. > >> Do we still want those, and if so what would we do about it? > > > Mag

Re: [HACKERS] TODO-list on wiki (was: TODO update about SQLSTATE to PGconn)

2008-03-12 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > Magnus Hagander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:03:13AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> We need it to do a few things: > > Actually, the part of the current process that a wiki would fail to > reproduce is the emails that Bruce sends out about TODO cha

Re: [HACKERS] TODO-list on wiki (was: TODO update about SQLSTATE to PGconn)

2008-03-12 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> Actually, the part of the current process that a wiki would fail to >> reproduce is the emails that Bruce sends out about TODO changes. >> Do we still want those, and if so what would we do about it? > Magnus said you can subscribe to

Re: [HACKERS] TODO-list on wiki (was: TODO update about SQLSTATE to PGconn)

2008-03-12 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:36:52AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Magnus Hagander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:03:13AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> We need it to do a few things: > > Actually, the part of the current process that a wiki would fail to > reproduce is the

Re: [HACKERS] TODO-list on wiki (was: TODO update about SQLSTATE to PGconn)

2008-03-12 Thread Tom Lane
Magnus Hagander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:03:13AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> We need it to do a few things: Actually, the part of the current process that a wiki would fail to reproduce is the emails that Bruce sends out about TODO changes. Do we still want those

Re: [HACKERS] TODO-list on wiki (was: TODO update about SQLSTATE to PGconn)

2008-03-12 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:03:13AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Magnus Hagander wrote: > > > If you change the text file, I will see the CVS update and update the > > > HTML --- I will never lose a change because my CVS sees your changes. > > > > That seems like a lot of extra work that should be

[HACKERS] TODO-list on wiki (was: TODO update about SQLSTATE to PGconn)

2008-03-12 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:27:06AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Magnus Hagander wrote: > > > > > > It's not. And I personally don't think it would be a problem. > > > > But I think it'll be a lot easier to sell to those who prefer > > > > textf

[HACKERS] TODO list has removed developer names

2007-01-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
I have removed the developer names from the bottom of the TODO list now that URLs are used to reference discussions. The URLs are much more accurate than putting names on items. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive

Re: [HACKERS] todo list management

2006-12-18 Thread Simon Riggs
On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 10:56 +0100, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > PostgreSQL 8.2 is out of the door. Unfortunately the plans for a more > detailed todo list have not come into reality yet to assist in for the > next 8.3 release. A couple people have replied to my earlier request to > form a little

[HACKERS] todo list management

2006-12-17 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Hi, PostgreSQL 8.2 is out of the door. Unfortunately the plans for a more detailed todo list have not come into reality yet to assist in for the next 8.3 release. A couple people have replied to my earlier request to form a little team willing to work on this, but unfortunately people seem to

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-26 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 03:44:18PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Jim C. Nasby wrote: > > I *think* this is reffering to how pg_dump makes some assumptions about > > what things are system objects. > > > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-committers/2005-08/msg00203.php > > doesn't help a heck

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > > Tom Lane wrote: > > >Or perhaps use a different separator: > > > >junk=# select * from xyz; > > id |name| address | del_addr > >++---+-- > >

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Jim C. Nasby wrote: > I *think* this is reffering to how pg_dump makes some assumptions about > what things are system objects. > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-committers/2005-08/msg00203.php > doesn't help a heck of a lot... > > Can we add an interface to the TODO list that contains sea

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Hannu Krosing wrote: > On K, 2005-08-24 at 21:58 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > > * %Allow TRUNCATE ... CASCADE/RESTRICT > > > > Huh? What would that do? > > Maybe this was meant truncating of tables with dependent foreign keys ? > > AFAIR this was solved by allowing truncating several tables in on

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 01:53:32PM -, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > > Tom Lane asked: > > > > >> o Improve psql's handling of multi-line queries > > > > > Uh, what's wrong with it? This item seems far too vague. > > > > I think perhaps this means adding multi

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Great updates! Let me comment on each one. > I made a pass over the TODO list to see what was out of date. > > > * Allow administrators to safely terminate individual sessions either > > via an SQL function or SIGTERM > > > > Currently SIGTERM of a backend can lead to lock table corruptio

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-25 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Aug 25, 2005, at 11:29 PM, Matt Miller wrote: On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 15:50 +0900, Michael Glaesemann wrote: * %Remove CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER Do we really want to remove it, Also, I believe CONSTRAINT TRIGGERS are the only way to provide transaction level (rather than statement

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-25 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:58:04PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > * %Allow RULE recompilation > > Eh? Perhaps you meant "automatically regenerate cached plans when > needed", in which case it's redundant with the Dependency Checking > entries. Whatever it means, this doesn't seem a particularly simp

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-25 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Tom Lane wrote: Or perhaps use a different separator: junk=# select * from xyz; id |name| address | del_addr ++---+-- 1 | Joe Bloggs | 1 Hindhead Villas,

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-25 Thread Tom Lane
Oliver Elphick writes: > It would be better to show the columns aligned (perhaps without showing > separators for other columns so as not to give the impression that the > other columns contain null or empty strings): > junk=# select * from xyz; > id |name| address

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-25 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 13:53 +, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Tom Lane asked: > > >> o Improve psql's handling of multi-line queries > > > Uh, what's wrong with it? This item seems far too vague. If you enter a multi-line query one

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-25 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Lane asked: >> o Improve psql's handling of multi-line queries > Uh, what's wrong with it? This item seems far too vague. I think perhaps this means adding multi-line support to the tab-completion? Only thing I can think of, cause other

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-25 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 01:53:32PM -, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > Tom Lane asked: > > >> o Improve psql's handling of multi-line queries > > > Uh, what's wrong with it? This item seems far too vague. > > I think perhaps this means adding multi-line support to > the tab-completion? O

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-25 Thread Matt Miller
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 15:50 +0900, Michael Glaesemann wrote: > >> * %Remove CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER > >> > > Do we really want to remove it, > > Also, I believe CONSTRAINT TRIGGERS are the only way to provide > transaction level (rather than statement level) referential > integrity. Don't d

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-25 Thread Robert Treat
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 21:58, Tom Lane wrote: > > o Add pg_dumpall custom format dumps. > > > > This is probably best done by combining pg_dump and pg_dumpall > > into a single binary. > > This is probably obsoleted by events, too. Now that we can dump blobs > in text mode, I see

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-25 Thread Hannu Krosing
On K, 2005-08-24 at 21:58 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > * %Allow TRUNCATE ... CASCADE/RESTRICT > > Huh? What would that do? Maybe this was meant truncating of tables with dependent foreign keys ? AFAIR this was solved by allowing truncating several tables in one command even if they have FK relati

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-25 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Aug 25, 2005, at 10:58 AM, Tom Lane wrote: * %Remove CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER This was used in older releases to dump referential integrity constraints. Do we really want to remove it, and thereby guarantee we can't load dumps from those old releases? Also, I believe CONSTRAINT TR

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-24 Thread Tom Lane
Kris Jurka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Tom Lane wrote: >> This is done (see bitmap index scans). > Will the optimizer ever choose this plan when dealing with only one index? Certainly. It's actually likely to prefer a bitmap scan whenever the query is estimated to fetch mo

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-24 Thread Kris Jurka
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Tom Lane wrote: * Fetch heap pages matching index entries in sequential order Rather than randomly accessing heap pages based on index entries, mark heap pages needing access in a bitmap and do the lookups in sequential order. Another method would be to sort heap ct

[HACKERS] TODO list comments

2005-08-24 Thread Tom Lane
I made a pass over the TODO list to see what was out of date. > * Allow administrators to safely terminate individual sessions either > via an SQL function or SIGTERM > > Currently SIGTERM of a backend can lead to lock table corruption. This comment may be out of date. Suggest Loc

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list

2004-01-06 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Bruce Momjian wrote: Andrew Dunstan wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Andrew Dunstan wrote: I thought we had thrashed this out back in August. Certainly the only thing I recall seeing after I submitted the patch was some stylistic criticism from Neil, which I addressed in a revised pa

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list

2004-01-06 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Jon Jensen wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Also, I would like to see some kind of session identifier that is more unique than pid, which wraps around. Ideally we could have 10{pid}, then then the pid wraps around, 20{pid), or something like that. This requires some t

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list

2004-01-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > >Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > > > > >>I thought we had thrashed this out back in August. Certainly the only > >>thing I recall seeing after I submitted the patch was some stylistic > >>criticism from Neil, which I addressed in a revised patch.

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list

2004-01-06 Thread Mario Weilguni
Am Tuesday 06 January 2004 21:30 schrieb Jon Jensen: > On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > >Also, I would like to see some kind of session identifier that is more > > >unique than pid, which wraps around. Ideally we could have 10{pid}, > > >then then the pid wraps around, 20{pid), or som

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list

2004-01-06 Thread Jon Jensen
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > >Also, I would like to see some kind of session identifier that is more > >unique than pid, which wraps around. Ideally we could have 10{pid}, > >then then the pid wraps around, 20{pid), or something like that. > > This requires some thought. ISTM it w

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list

2004-01-06 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Bruce Momjian wrote: Andrew Dunstan wrote: I thought we had thrashed this out back in August. Certainly the only thing I recall seeing after I submitted the patch was some stylistic criticism from Neil, which I addressed in a revised patch. Anyway, it is in principle doable. That's partly why

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list

2004-01-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > Bruce Momjian said: > > Andrew Dunstan wrote: > >> > >> 2 things. > >> > >> I submitted a patch for this 5 months ago, which is still waiting to > be merged (hope it hasn't bitrotted in the meantime): > >> > >> . Allow log lines to include session-level information, like da

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list

2004-01-06 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Bruce Momjian said: > Andrew Dunstan wrote: >> >> 2 things. >> >> I submitted a patch for this 5 months ago, which is still waiting to be merged (hope it hasn't bitrotted in the meantime): >> >> . Allow log lines to include session-level information, like database and user >> >> If nobody is worki

Re: [HACKERS] TODO list

2004-01-05 Thread Bruce Momjian
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > 2 things. > > I submitted a patch for this 5 months ago, which is still waiting to be > merged (hope it hasn't bitrotted in the meantime): > > . Allow log lines to include session-level information, like database > and user > > If nobody is working on this I am prepa

[HACKERS] TODO list

2004-01-05 Thread Andrew Dunstan
2 things. I submitted a patch for this 5 months ago, which is still waiting to be merged (hope it hasn't bitrotted in the meantime): . Allow log lines to include session-level information, like database and user If nobody is working on this I am prepared to look at it: . Allow logging of only

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