Re: [HACKERS] Re: Name for new VACUUM

2001-08-05 Thread Hannu Krosing
Tom Lane wrote: > > Hannu Krosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Just out of curiosity - does CLUSTER currently "practically rebuild > > a tables representation" ? > > CLUSTER currently *loses* most of a table's representation :-(. > It needs work. The easiest implememntaion of CLUSTER seems t

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Name for new VACUUM

2001-08-05 Thread Hannu Krosing
Tom Lane wrote: > > Hannu Krosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Just out of curiosity - does CLUSTER currently "practically rebuild > > a tables representation" ? > > CLUSTER currently *loses* most of a table's representation :-(. > It needs work. at least \h CLUSTER in psql seems to imply th

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Name for new VACUUM

2001-08-05 Thread Tom Lane
Hannu Krosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just out of curiosity - does CLUSTER currently "practically rebuild > a tables representation" ? CLUSTER currently *loses* most of a table's representation :-(. It needs work. But since the whole point of CLUSTER is to physically rearrange the tuples o

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Name for new VACUUM

2001-08-05 Thread Hannu Krosing
Tom Lane wrote: > > mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ... people looked at me like I had two heads when I told them about > > "vacuum." It wasn't obvious to them what it did. > > I won't dispute that, but changing a command name that's been around for > ten or fifteen years strikes me as a rec

[HACKERS] Re: Name for new VACUUM

2001-08-03 Thread mlw
Tom Lane wrote: > > mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Why rename VACUUM, why not create a new command RECLAIM, or something like > > that. RECLAIM does the VACUUM NOLOCK, while vacuum does the locking. > > Um, that gets the default backwards IMHO, where "default" = "what > existing scripts wil

Re: [HACKERS] Re: Name for new VACUUM

2001-08-03 Thread Jan Wieck
Tom Lane wrote: > > > VACUUM DEFRAG? > > VACUUM COMPRESS? > > While these look kinda ugly to me, I can find no stronger objection than > that. (Well, maybe I could complain that these overstate what old-style > vacuum actually does, but that's even weaker.) What do other people > think? Wha

[HACKERS] Re: Name for new VACUUM

2001-08-02 Thread Tom Lane
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why rename VACUUM, why not create a new command RECLAIM, or something like > that. RECLAIM does the VACUUM NOLOCK, while vacuum does the locking. Um, that gets the default backwards IMHO, where "default" = "what existing scripts will do". > The term RECLAIM will

[HACKERS] Re: Name for new VACUUM

2001-08-02 Thread mlw
Tom Lane wrote: > > > Maybe just call the traditional vacuum VACUUM LOCK. It was the > > LOCK/NOLOCK idea that I think was important. > > Right now it's called VACUUM FULL, but I'm not particularly wedded to > that name. Does anyone else like VACUUM LOCK? Or have an even better > idea? Why r