On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Magnus Hagander writes:
> > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> I'm not an SSL expert, so insert appropriate grain of salt, but AIUI the
> >> question is what are you going to verify against?
>
> > One way to do it would be to d
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:47:45AM -0700, Jeff Janes wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> > It's possible that we could adopt some policy like "if the root.crt file
> > exists then default to verify" ... but that seems messy and unreliable,
> > so I'm not sure it would really
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
>
> It's possible that we could adopt some policy like "if the root.crt file
> exists then default to verify" ... but that seems messy and unreliable,
> so I'm not sure it would really add any security.
>
That is what we do. If root.crt exists, we
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Nico Williams
wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 12:33:00AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > So to default to verification would be to default to failing to
> > connect at all until user has created a ~/.postgresql/root.crt file with
> > valid, relevant entries. That see
On 10/03/2017 05:47 PM, Nico Williams wrote:
> +1, but it's trickier than you might think. I can connect you with
> Viktor Dukhovni, who has implemented DANE for OpenSSL, and done yeoman's
> work getting DANE for SMTP working.
I really appreciate, but I know it is very tricky :). I do not pretend
On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 11:45:24AM +0200, Adrien Nayrat wrote:
> On 10/03/2017 06:15 AM, Zeus Kronion wrote:
> > 2) I was surprised to learn the following from the docs:
> >
> >> By default, PostgreSQL will not perform any verification of the server
> > certificate. This means that it is possible
On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 09:44:01AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Magnus Hagander writes:
> > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> I'm not an SSL expert, so insert appropriate grain of salt, but AIUI the
> >> question is what are you going to verify against?
>
> > One way to do it woul
On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 12:33:00AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Zeus Kronion writes:
> > 2) I was surprised to learn the following from the docs:
>
> >> By default, PostgreSQL will not perform any verification of the server
> >> certificate.
>
> > Is there a technical reason to perform no verificati
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
> Tom,
>
> * Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote:
> > Magnus Hagander writes:
> > > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> > >> I'm not an SSL expert, so insert appropriate grain of salt, but AIUI
> the
> > >> question is what are
Tom,
* Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote:
> Magnus Hagander writes:
> > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> I'm not an SSL expert, so insert appropriate grain of salt, but AIUI the
> >> question is what are you going to verify against?
>
> > One way to do it would be to defau
Magnus Hagander writes:
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
>> I'm not an SSL expert, so insert appropriate grain of salt, but AIUI the
>> question is what are you going to verify against?
> One way to do it would be to default to the "system global certificate
> store", which is w
Hi,
On 10/03/2017 06:15 AM, Zeus Kronion wrote:
> 2) I was surprised to learn the following from the docs:
>
>> By default, PostgreSQL will not perform any verification of the server
> certificate. This means that it is possible to spoof the server identity (for
> example by modifying a DNS recor
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Zeus Kronion writes:
> > 2) I was surprised to learn the following from the docs:
>
> >> By default, PostgreSQL will not perform any verification of the server
> >> certificate.
>
> > Is there a technical reason to perform no verification by defa
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Zeus Kronion wrote:
> I previously made one minuscule contribution to the project two years ago.
> I'm interested in doing some more, and I'm trying to figure out what to
> focus on. Two SSL-related projects caught my attention:
> 1) Allow automatic selection of SSL
Zeus Kronion writes:
> 2) I was surprised to learn the following from the docs:
>> By default, PostgreSQL will not perform any verification of the server
>> certificate.
> Is there a technical reason to perform no verification by default? Wouldn't
> a safer default be desirable?
I'm not an SSL
I previously made one minuscule contribution to the project two years ago.
I'm interested in doing some more, and I'm trying to figure out what to
focus on. Two SSL-related projects caught my attention:
1) Allow automatic selection of SSL client certificates from a certificate
store (https://www.po
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