Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-19 Thread Adrian Phillips
> "Michael" == Michael Widenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Please note that we NEVER have asked NuSphere to sign Michael> over copyright of Gemini to us. We do it only for the Michael> core server, and this is actually not an uncommon thing Michael> among open source

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Michael Widenius
Hi! > "Jan" == Jan Wieck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jan> Moin Monty, Jan> dear fence-guests, Thanks. >> Please note that we NEVER have asked NuSphere to sign over copyright >> of Gemini to us. We do it only for the core server, and this is >> actually not an uncommon thing among open so

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Michael Widenius
Hi! > "Nathan" == Nathan Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nathan> On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 08:35:58AM -0400, Jan Wieck wrote: >> And this press release >> >> http://www.nusphere.com/releases/071601.htm >> >> also explains why they had to do it this way. Nathan> They were always free to

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Sascha Schumann
> This is slightly different - FSF wants it so it will have a legal > position to defend its programs: There is at least one documented case where the FSF has used that right to sell a non-open license for GCC to Motorola. - Sascha Experience IRCG

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Nathan Myers
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 06:37:48PM -0400, Trond Eivind Glomsr?d wrote: > Michael Widenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Assigning over the code is also something that FSF requires for all > > code contributions. If you criticize us at MySQL AB, you should > > also criticize the above. > > This

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Jan Wieck
Michael Widenius wrote: > > Hi! Moin Monty, dear fence-guests, > Please note that we NEVER have asked NuSphere to sign over copyright > of Gemini to us. We do it only for the core server, and this is > actually not an uncommon thing among open source companies. For > example QT (Trolltech) and X

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød
Michael Widenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please note that we NEVER have asked NuSphere to sign over copyright > of Gemini to us. We do it only for the core server, and this is > actually not an uncommon thing among open source companies. For > example QT (Trolltech) and Ximian (a lot of gno

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Nathan Myers
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 08:35:58AM -0400, Jan Wieck wrote: > And this press release > > http://www.nusphere.com/releases/071601.htm > > also explains why they had to do it this way. They were always free to fork, but doing it the way they did -- violating MySQL AB's license --

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Michael Widenius
Hi! As I do have some insight in these matters, I thought I would comment on this thing > "Jan" == Jan Wieck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jan> Bruce Momjian wrote: >> As some of you know, Nusphere is trying to sell MySQL with an additional >> transaction-based table manager called Gemini.

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Nathan Myers
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 11:45:54AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > And this press release > > > > http://www.nusphere.com/releases/071601.htm > ... > On a more significant note, I hear the word "fork" clearly suggested > in that text. It is almost like MySQL AB GPL'ed the MySQL code

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Jan Wieck
And the story goes on... http://www.newsforge.com/comments.pl?sid=01/07/18/0226219&commentsort=0&mode=flat&threshold=0&pid=0 Jan -- #==# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's b

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Bruce Momjian
> And this press release > > http://www.nusphere.com/releases/071601.htm > > also explains why they had to do it this way. They disagreed > with the policy that every code added to the core system must > be owned by MySQL AB, so that these guys can sell it for >

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-18 Thread Jan Wieck
Bruce Momjian wrote: > As some of you know, Nusphere is trying to sell MySQL with an additional > transaction-based table manager called Gemini. They enabled download of > the source code yesterday at: > >http://mysql.org/download3.php?file_id=1118 > > Looking through the 122k lines of C code

[HACKERS] MySQL Gemini code

2001-07-17 Thread Bruce Momjian
As some of you know, Nusphere is trying to sell MySQL with an additional transaction-based table manager called Gemini. They enabled download of the source code yesterday at: http://mysql.org/download3.php?file_id=1118 Looking through the 122k lines of C code in the Gemini directory, it