Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Gaetano Mendola
""Dann Corbit"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > /* > ** This will generate a 28 megabyte SQL script. > ** 1600 table definitions will be created for tables > ** with from 1 to 1600 columns. > */ That's easy, now you shall do real query, real vacuum, real reindex on it Regards Gaetano Mendola

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai
-On [20030909 23:02], Andrew Dunstan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >They must be very big images or there must be an awful lot of them :-) *grin* I was more thinking of organizations such as NASA and commercial entities storing satellite images in databases. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asm

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai wrote: At work right now I have a bunch of 2-3 TB databases using Oracle 8. We're expected to be using 60 TB in total storage about 2 years down the road (right now we're using about 20). I guess GIS databases and image databases might be the ones who would be more concerned

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Dann Corbit
> -Original Message- > From: Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:23 PM > To: Bruce Momjian > Cc: Tatsuo Ishii; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size > > > -On [200

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Paulo Scardine
From: "Gaetano Mendola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Why this ? just because bigger is better? I agree with Tom Lane, is > better underpromise than overpromise. My $0.02: You are talking about pg teoretical limits. Why not add to the docs some information about the lack of resources for testing these li

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Lane
Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > -On [20030909 20:32], Bruce Momjian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> I know Tom is concerned because we haven't tested it, but I don't think >> anyone has tested 16TB either, nor our 1600-column limit. > The 1600 column limit should be easy to test

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai
-On [20030909 20:32], Bruce Momjian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >I know Tom is concerned because we haven't tested it, but I don't think >anyone has tested 16TB either, nor our 1600-column limit. If I had the space free on my SAN right now I'd try it. The 1600 column limit should be easy to test o

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Gaetano Mendola
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:25:19 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Momjian) wrote: >Tatsuo Ishii wrote: >> > Tom Lane wrote: >> > > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > > Is our maximum table size limited by the maximum block number? >> > > >> > > Certainly. >> > > >> > > > Is the 16T

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > > Tom Lane wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Is our maximum table size limited by the maximum block number? > > > > > > Certainly. > > > > > > > Is the 16TB number a hold-over from when we weren't sure block number > > > > was unsigned, though no

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 02:04:43AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > It's a holdover. As to how certain we are that all the > signed-vs-unsigned bugs are fixed, who have you heard from running a > greater-than-16Tb table? And how often have they done CLUSTER, REINDEX, > or even VACUUM FULL on it? AFAIK

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I guess the big question is what do we report as the maximum table size? > Do we report 32TB and fix any bug that happen over 16TB? [shrug] I'm happy with what the docs say now. I'd rather underpromise than overpromise. regards,

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> Tom Lane wrote: > > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Is our maximum table size limited by the maximum block number? > > > > Certainly. > > > > > Is the 16TB number a hold-over from when we weren't sure block number > > > was unsigned, though now we are pretty sure it is handled a

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Is our maximum table size limited by the maximum block number? > > Certainly. > > > Is the 16TB number a hold-over from when we weren't sure block number > > was unsigned, though now we are pretty sure it is handled as unsigned > > c

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-09 Thread scott.marlowe
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Is our maximum table size limited by the maximum block number? > > Certainly. > > > Is the 16TB number a hold-over from when we weren't sure block number > > was unsigned, though now we are pretty sure it is hand

Re: [HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-08 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is our maximum table size limited by the maximum block number? Certainly. > Is the 16TB number a hold-over from when we weren't sure block number > was unsigned, though now we are pretty sure it is handled as unsigned > consistenly? It's a holdover. A

[HACKERS] Maximum table size

2003-09-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
Is our maximum table size limited by the maximum block number? With our block number maximum of: #define MaxBlockNumber ((BlockNumber) 0xFFFE) 0xFFFE = 4294967294 would the max table size really be (4GB * 8k) or 32 TB, not 16TB, as listed in the FAQ: