Re: [HACKERS] Hot Standby startup with overflowed snapshots

2011-11-02 Thread Chris Redekop
oopsreply-to-all -- Forwarded message -- From: Chris Redekop Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Hot Standby startup with overflowed snapshots To: Simon Riggs Sure, I've got quite a few logs lying around - I've attached 3 of 'em...let m

Re: [HACKERS] Hot Standby startup with overflowed snapshots

2011-11-02 Thread Simon Riggs
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Chris Redekop wrote: > On a side note I am sporadically seeing another error on hotstandby startup. >  I'm not terribly concerned about it as it is pretty rare and it will work > on a retry so it's not a big deal.  The error is "FATAL:  out-of-order XID > insertio

Re: [HACKERS] Hot Standby startup with overflowed snapshots

2011-10-27 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Simon Riggs wrote: > It seems cheap to add in a call to LogStandbySnapshot() after each > call to pg_stop_backup(). > > Does anyone think this case is worth adding code for? Seems like one > more thing to break. Why at that particular time? It would maybe nice if

Re: [HACKERS] Hot Standby startup with overflowed snapshots

2011-10-27 Thread Chris Redekop
Sorry..."designed" was poor choice of words, I meant "not unexpected". Doing the checkpoint right after pg_stop_backup() looks like it will work perfectly for me, so thanks for all your help! On a side note I am sporadically seeing another error on hotstandby startup. I'm not terribly concerned

Re: [HACKERS] Hot Standby startup with overflowed snapshots

2011-10-27 Thread Simon Riggs
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Chris Redekop wrote: > hrmz, still basically the same behaviour.  I think it might be a *little* > better with this patch.  Before when under load it would start up quickly > maybe 2 or 3 times out of 10 attemptswith this patch it might be up to 4 > or 5 time

Re: [HACKERS] Hot Standby startup with overflowed snapshots

2011-10-27 Thread Chris Redekop
hrmz, still basically the same behaviour. I think it might be a *little* better with this patch. Before when under load it would start up quickly maybe 2 or 3 times out of 10 attemptswith this patch it might be up to 4 or 5 times out of 10...ish...or maybe it was just fluke *shrug*. I'm stil

Re: [HACKERS] Hot Standby startup with overflowed snapshots

2011-10-27 Thread Simon Riggs
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Chris Redekop wrote: > Thanks for the patch Simon, but unfortunately it does not resolve the issue > I am seeing.  The standby still refuses to finish starting up until long > after all clients have disconnected from the primary (>10 minutes).  I do > see your new

Re: [HACKERS] Hot Standby startup with overflowed snapshots

2011-10-27 Thread Chris Redekop
Thanks for the patch Simon, but unfortunately it does not resolve the issue I am seeing. The standby still refuses to finish starting up until long after all clients have disconnected from the primary (>10 minutes). I do see your new log statement on startup, but only once - it does not repeat.

[HACKERS] Hot Standby startup with overflowed snapshots

2011-10-27 Thread Simon Riggs
Chris Redekop's recent report of slow startup for Hot Standby has made me revisit the code there. Although there isn't a bug, there is a missed opportunity for starting up faster which could be the source of Chris' annoyance. The following patch allows a faster startup in some circumstances. The