Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-02 Thread Tom Lane
Gregory Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Incidentally, Tom, were you consulting the dead-tree edition of the OED? I plead guilty to having blown some dust off it before opening it ... but when looking for an authoritative reference, I like things that have got heft to them ...

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-02 Thread Gregory Stark
"Tom Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmm ... the Oxford English Dictionary defines "forensic" as "pertaining > to, connected with, or used in courts of law". There are also some > senses related to argumentation, but nothing specifically about evidence > analysis, whether after-the-fact or n

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-02 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Heikki Linnakangas wrote: I'm going to go with pgdiagnostics. We could short it to just "pgdiag", but that feels too short :). We could make it "pgdiagfuncs", but that's not much shorter than pgdiagnostics. pgdiagfn? It is only 8 chars length ;). Zdenek ---(

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
Pavan Deolasee wrote: > On 5/2/07, Heikki Linnakangas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm going to go with pgdiagnostics. We could short it to just "pgdiag", > > but that feels too short :). We could make it "pgdiagfuncs", but that's > > not much shorter than pgdiagnostics. > > > > Ju

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-02 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas ADI SD
> > Any suggestions? pgdiagnostics? > > Yes, I like "diagnostics", or "internals". I just think > forensics isn't going to be understood by the average native > English speaker, let alone non-English speakers. I think forensics is ok. The world is currently beeing swamped with related tv show

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-01 Thread Pavan Deolasee
On 5/2/07, Heikki Linnakangas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm going to go with pgdiagnostics. We could short it to just "pgdiag", but that feels too short :). We could make it "pgdiagfuncs", but that's not much shorter than pgdiagnostics. Just to add more confusion :-), how about "pginspect

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-01 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
Zdenek Kotala wrote: Heikki Linnakangas wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Heikki Linnakangas wrote: Any suggestions? pgdiagnostics? Yes, I like "diagnostics", or "internals". I just think forensics isn't going to be understood by the average native English

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-01 Thread Tom Lane
"Florian G. Pflug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Doesn't forensics basically mean to find the cause of something > *after* it happened, based on traces that the event left behind? Hmm ... the Oxford English Dictionary defines "forensic" as "pertaining to, connected with, or used in courts of law".

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-01 Thread Florian G. Pflug
Zdenek Kotala wrote: I did not find "forensics" in translator and It mentions in Oxford vocabulary but explanation is not clear for me. I agree with Bruce It is not good name. What about short form of diagnostic "diag"? Doesn't forensics basically mean to find the cause of something *after* it

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-01 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Heikki Linnakangas wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Heikki Linnakangas wrote: Any suggestions? pgdiagnostics? Yes, I like "diagnostics", or "internals". I just think forensics isn't going to be understood by the average native English speaker, let alone non-

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-01 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Heikki Linnakangas wrote: Any suggestions? pgdiagnostics? Yes, I like "diagnostics", or "internals". I just think forensics isn't going to be understood by the average native English speaker, let alone non-English speakers. "diagno

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-01 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Heikki Linnakangas wrote: >> Any suggestions? pgdiagnostics? > Yes, I like "diagnostics", or "internals". I just think forensics isn't > going to be understood by the average native English speaker, let alone > non-English speakers. "diagnostics" is a

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > Any suggestions? pgdiagnostics? Yes, I like "diagnostics", or "internals". I just think forensics isn't going to be understood by the average native English speaker, let alone non-English speakers. --

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-05-01 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
Any suggestions? pgdiagnostics? I'm happy with forensics myself. Bruce Momjian wrote: Sounds good, though I am worried that "forensics" will not be a word easily understood by non-native English speakers. --- Heikki Linna

Re: [HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-04-30 Thread Bruce Momjian
Sounds good, though I am worried that "forensics" will not be a word easily understood by non-native English speakers. --- Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > I'm taking over Simon's heap page diagnostic functions to get them into

[HACKERS] Heap page diagnostic functions

2007-04-30 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
I'm taking over Simon's heap page diagnostic functions to get them into shape for committing. I'm thinking of having a new contrib-module for them: pgforensics. All the new functions go there, and I'm also going to move bt_page_items, bt_page_stats, and bt_metap functions from pgstattuple to t