Re: [HACKERS] CVS should die (was: Possible make_oidjoins_check ...)

2004-11-09 Thread Steve Crawford
> This doesn't really answer the question of what tool Postgres might > change to, but it seems that Subversion is a good tool one should > consider. And by golly, CVS is bad. Just consider the cons – having > to forbid renames in all but the most necessary cases – it just > invites cruft into any

Re: [HACKERS] CVS should die (was: Possible make_oidjoins_check ...)

2004-11-05 Thread David Helgason
The intuitive understanding of a file is certainly something like "a file called 'baz.c' residing at 'foo/bar/', which contains the BAZ subsystem". Now, when renaming/moving a file such an intuitive understanding is partially lost. UI-wise that's a problem which I haven't ever seen solved well.

Re: [HACKERS] CVS should die (was: Possible make_oidjoins_check

2004-11-04 Thread Neil Conway
[CC list trimmed] On Fri, 2004-11-05 at 06:41, Tom Lane wrote: > (I'm rather interested to know whether any other SCMs have a better > solution to this problem, and if so what it is. It's not obvious how > to do better.) Sure -- just about every "next generation" OSS version control tool gets th

Re: [HACKERS] CVS should die (was: Possible make_oidjoins_check ...)

2004-11-04 Thread Russell Smith
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 07:02 am, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Tom Lane wrote: > > > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> why would we lose CVS history? I can physically move the files in > >> /cvsroot to accomplish this ... just tell me what needs to move, and to > >>

Re: [HACKERS] CVS should die (was: Possible make_oidjoins_check ...)

2004-11-04 Thread Joerg Hessdoerfer
Hi, On Thursday 04 November 2004 20:41, Tom Lane wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > why would we lose CVS history? I can physically move the files in > > /cvsroot to accomplish this ... just tell me what needs to move, and to > > where ... > > If you physically move the f

Re: [HACKERS] CVS should die (was: Possible make_oidjoins_check ...)

2004-11-04 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 02:41:08PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > (I'm rather interested to know whether any other SCMs have a better > solution to this problem, and if so what it is. It's not obvious how > to do better.) I understood that the whole point of subversion was mostly to make moving file

Re: [HACKERS] CVS should die (was: Possible make_oidjoins_check ...)

2004-11-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Tom Lane wrote: "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: why would we lose CVS history? I can physically move the files in /cvsroot to accomplish this ... just tell me what needs to move, and to where ... If you physically move the files, that would retroactively change t

Re: [HACKERS] CVS should die (was: Possible make_oidjoins_check ...)

2004-11-04 Thread Tom Lane
"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > why would we lose CVS history? I can physically move the files in > /cvsroot to accomplish this ... just tell me what needs to move, and to > where ... If you physically move the files, that would retroactively change their placement in back vers

Re: [HACKERS] CVS should die (was: Possible make_oidjoins_check ...)

2004-11-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 09:47:46AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Why not move it to src/tools, so no one gets the impression that it is user code? I thought about that earlier, but concluded it wasn't worth the loss of

[HACKERS] CVS should die (was: Possible make_oidjoins_check ...)

2004-11-04 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 09:47:46AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Why not move it to src/tools, so no one gets the impression that it is > > user code? > > I thought about that earlier, but concluded it wasn't worth the loss of > CVS history. I have cou