Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 20:35, Kevin Grittner wrote: > Greg Stark wrote: > >> But all it means is you get a random subset of the messages. >> You're still missing most of the admin or sql or performance >> related threads since they're mostly on -general anyways. Those >> three categories cover pr

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Greg Stark
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Ned Lilly wrote: > +1 for the idea, and +1 for the Zork reference.  Hello sailor. fwiw it's older than Zork. It comes from Adventure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure) -- greg -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Jaime Casanova
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 15:06 -0400, Jaime Casanova wrote: >> > >> >> if we want specific topics, then remove -general, -novice, -admin > > This will likely never fly, see the archives. > well, -novice shuold be easy... actually it has no rea

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 15:06 -0400, Jaime Casanova wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Greg Stark wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Grittner > >> wrote: > >>> My set is different, but the principle is the same -- I can't

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Jaime Casanova
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Greg Stark wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Grittner >> wrote: >>> My set is different, but the principle is the same -- I can't find >>> the time to read all messages to all lists (really, I've t

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Ned Lilly
+1 for the idea, and +1 for the Zork reference. Hello sailor. On 4/8/2010 1:11 AM Greg Stark wrote: I've often said in the past that we have too many mailing lists with overlapping and vague charters. I submit the following thread as evidence that this causes real problems. http://archives.pos

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Kevin Grittner
Greg Stark wrote: > But all it means is you get a random subset of the messages. > You're still missing most of the admin or sql or performance > related threads since they're mostly on -general anyways. Those > three categories cover pretty much all of -general. Well, one of these more specif

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Kevin Grittner
Greg Stark wrote: > But all it means is you get a random subset of the messages. > You're still missing most of the admin or sql or performance > related threads since they're mostly on -general anyways. Those > three categories cover pretty much all of -general. Perhaps -general should be eli

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Greg Stark wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Grittner > wrote: >> My set is different, but the principle is the same -- I can't find >> the time to read all messages to all lists (really, I've tried), so >> I limit by list to try to target the issues o

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Greg Stark
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote: > My set is different, but the principle is the same -- I can't find > the time to read all messages to all lists (really, I've tried), so > I limit by list to try to target the issues of most interest to me. But all it means is you get a rand

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Josh Berkus
On 4/7/10 10:11 PM, Greg Stark wrote: > Likewise I don't think we should have pgsql-performance or pgsql-sql > or pgsql-novice -- any thread appropriate for any of these would be > better served by sending it to pgsql-general anyways (with the > exception of pgsql-performance which has a weird comb

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 > Perhaps further clarifying the charters of the various lists would > help, but folding too much into any one list is likely to reduce the > number of readers or cause "spotty" attention. (When I was > attempting to follow all the lists, I'd t

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Kevin Grittner
Robert Haas wrote: > Dave Page wrote: >> Greg Stark wrote: >>> Because the poster chose to send it to pgsql-admin instead of >>> pgsql-general (or pgsql-bugs) very few of the usual suspects had >>> a chance to see it. 7 days later a question about a rather >>> serious database corruption prob

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Dave Page wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Greg Stark wrote: >> Because the poster chose to send it to pgsql-admin instead of >> pgsql-general (or pgsql-bugs) very few of the usual suspects had a >> chance to see it. 7 days later a question about a rather s

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Dave Page wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Greg Stark wrote: >> Because the poster chose to send it to pgsql-admin instead of >> pgsql-general (or pgsql-bugs) very few of the usual suspects had a >> chance to see it. 7 days later a question about a rather s

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Dave Page
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Dave Page wrote: > I can't argue with that... but a counter argument is ... Yes, I know. Clearly it's coffee time :-p -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make chan

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-08 Thread Dave Page
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Greg Stark wrote: > Because the poster chose to send it to pgsql-admin instead of > pgsql-general (or pgsql-bugs) very few of the usual suspects had a > chance to see it. 7 days later a question about a rather serious > database corruption problem had no responses.

Re: [HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-07 Thread Jaime Casanova
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Greg Stark wrote: > > Likewise I don't think we should have pgsql-performance or pgsql-sql > or pgsql-novice -- any thread appropriate for any of these would be > better served by sending it to pgsql-general anyways (with the +1 -- Atentamente, Jaime Casanova Sop

[HACKERS] A maze of twisty mailing lists all the same

2010-04-07 Thread Greg Stark
I've often said in the past that we have too many mailing lists with overlapping and vague charters. I submit the following thread as evidence that this causes real problems. http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/g2o4b46b5f01004010610ib8625426uae6ee90ac1435...@mail.gmail.com Because the poste