Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-14 Thread Greg Stark
Dennis Bjorklund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > They are aggregate functions, the avg() is a window aggregate function > according to the standard. It runs over all values in the same partition. > > > -- albeit functions that use data from other records other > > than the one being output. > >

Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-14 Thread Greg Stark
Dennis Bjorklund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The standard (sql2003) have what is called windows where one can do these > things and much more. OLAP functions would be very nice. But they're not the same thing. In fact that's precisely *why* they would be really nice. They allow you to do things

Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-14 Thread Greg Stark
Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The case I was thinking of were datatypes without a defined ordering > where max and min wouldn't be usable. But if GROUP BY was going to > changed to allow any columns if the primary key was used in the GROUP > BY clause, I can't see any use for those

Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:52:59 -0500, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If someone did a naive implementation of first() and last() aggregates > > for 8.1, is that something that would likely be accepted? > > For the purpose that Greg is sugg

Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-13 Thread Tom Lane
Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If someone did a naive implementation of first() and last() aggregates > for 8.1, is that something that would likely be accepted? For the purpose that Greg is suggesting, these would have no advantage over min() or max() --- since the system wouldn't

Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-13 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 21:21 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: >> Comments? Can anyone confirm whether DB2 or other databases allow >> ungrouped column references with HAVING? > Mysql treats ungrouped columns as an assertion that those columns will all be > equal for

Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 00:35:32 -0500, Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If someone did a naive implementation of first() and last() aggregates > > for 8.1, is that something that would likely be accepted? > > You mean like this? > >

Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-13 Thread Greg Stark
Bruno Wolff III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If someone did a naive implementation of first() and last() aggregates > for 8.1, is that something that would likely be accepted? You mean like this? CREATE FUNCTION first_accum(anyelement,anyelement) RETURNS anyelement as 'select coalesce($1,$2)

Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 23:24:18 -0500, Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've noticed quite frequently scenarios where this idiom would be very handy. > I usually either end up rewriting the query to have nested subqueries so I can > push the grouping into the subquery. This doesn't alw

Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-13 Thread Greg Stark
> On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 21:21 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > Comments? Can anyone confirm whether DB2 or other databases allow > > ungrouped column references with HAVING? Mysql treats ungrouped columns as an assertion that those columns will all be equal for the group and it can pick an arbitrary

Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-13 Thread John R Pierce
select 1 from tab having 1=1; returns 2 rows I'm curious whats in those two rows... {{1} {1}} ? ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] [BUGS] We are not following the spec for HAVING without GROUP

2005-03-13 Thread Mark Shewmaker
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 21:21 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Comments? Can anyone confirm whether DB2 or other databases allow > ungrouped column references with HAVING? In Sybase: 1> select 2 as id, max(myfield) from mytable where 2=1 2> go id --- -- 2