Re: [HACKERS] Returning to the List

2003-06-10 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Excellent news. I picked up your patch but have not be able to devote a large amount of time to it. I'll send you a patch based on the cvs tip as well as some pointers to proposed changes. I'll contact you offlist about various workload proposals. Cheers, Patrick J.R. Nield wrote: I just want to

Re: [HACKERS] Incremental backup

2003-02-13 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Patrick Macdonald wrote: > > > Yeah, it's a different method of producing a similar outcome. However, many > > companies do not want to be concerned with the management (and space) > > of archived logs. Incremental backup allows them the

Re: [HACKERS] Incremental backup

2003-02-13 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Patrick Macdonald wrote: > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > Someone at Red Hat is working on point-in-time recovery, also known as > > > incremental backups. > > > > PITR and incremental backup are different beasts.

Re: [HACKERS] Incremental backup

2003-02-13 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Someone at Red Hat is working on point-in-time recovery, also known as > incremental backups. PITR and incremental backup are different beasts. PITR deals with a backup + logs. Incremental backup deals with a full backup + X smaller/incremental backups. So... it doesn

Re: [HACKERS] FW: Duplicate oids!

2002-12-18 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Patrick Macdonald wrote: > > Tom Lane wrote: > > > > Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 09:43:19AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > >> Actually, if you don't mind grabbing a copy of pg_filedump --- see > > &g

Re: [HACKERS] Big 7.4 items

2002-12-16 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Patrick Macdonald wrote: > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > I wanted to outline some of the big items we are looking at for 7.4: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > Point-In-Time Recovery (PITR) > > &

Re: [HACKERS] FW: Duplicate oids!

2002-12-16 Thread Patrick Macdonald
_filedump > that understands both the 7.2 and 7.3 page layouts (the version field in > the page header would work for telling what you're looking at) Correct. The tool will be updated to understand the different page layouts/formats. Two tools would be a pain... Cheers, Patrick

Re: [HACKERS] Big 7.4 items

2002-12-16 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I wanted to outline some of the big items we are looking at for 7.4: > > [snip] > > Point-In-Time Recovery (PITR) > > J. R. Nield did a PITR patch late in 7.3 development, and Patrick > MacDonald from Red Hat is working

Re: [HACKERS] Issues Outstanding for Point In Time Recovery (PITR)

2002-07-08 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD wrote: > > > As noted, one of the main problems is knowing where to begin > > in the log. This can be handled by having backup processing > > update the control file with the first lsn and log file > > required. At the time of the backup, this information is or > > can

Re: [HACKERS] Issues Outstanding for Point In Time Recovery (PITR)

2002-07-06 Thread Patrick Macdonald
stamp encountered. . forward recover stop Stop the current forward recovery session. Undo all in-flight transactions and bring the databases down in a consistent state. No other external user actions should be required. Looking forward to reading draft 2. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Macd

Re: [HACKERS] Documentation on page files

2002-04-22 Thread Patrick Macdonald
- Patrick Macdonald Red Hat Database Tom Lane wrote: > > Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Chapter 7 of the Developers guide in about the Page Format on disk and it's > > a little out of date not to mention somewhat incomplete. > &

Re: [HACKERS] Idea: recycle WAL segments, don't delete/recreate 'em

2001-07-23 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Tom, What you are describing is a pseudo circular log. Other database systems (such as DB2) support the concept of both circular and recoverable logs. Recoverable is named this way because recoverable logs can be used in point-in-time recovery. Both methods support crash recovery. In genera

Re: [HACKERS] Idea: recycle WAL segments, don't delete/recreate 'em

2001-07-23 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Tom Lane wrote: > > Patrick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I understand your solution is for the existing architecture which does > > not support point-in-time recovery. If this item is picked up, your > > solution will become a stumbling block due the

Re: [HACKERS] Idea: recycle WAL segments, don't delete/recreate 'em

2001-07-18 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > Yes, but in a very roundabout way (or so it seems). The main point > > > > that I was trying to illustrate was that if a database supports > > > > point-in-time recovery, recycling of the only available log segments > > > > is a bad thing. And, yes, in practice if

Re: [HACKERS] Idea: recycle WAL segments, don't delete/recreate 'em

2001-07-18 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Hmmm... my prior appends to this newsgroup are stalled. Hopefully, > > they'll be available soon. > > > > Tom Lane wrote: > > > > > > What you may really be saying is that the existing scheme for management > > > of log segments is inappropriate for PIT usage; if so fe

Re: [HACKERS] Idea: recycle WAL segments, don't delete/recreate 'em

2001-07-18 Thread Patrick Macdonald
Hmmm... my prior appends to this newsgroup are stalled. Hopefully, they'll be available soon. Tom Lane wrote: > > What you may really be saying is that the existing scheme for management > of log segments is inappropriate for PIT usage; if so feel free to > propose a better one. But I don't se