Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Compatibility WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again

2009-08-27 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Le jeudi 27 août 2009 à 14:27 -0500, Jaime Casanova a écrit : > the point was that if we simply were saying: hey! mysql can interpret > this, make postgres do the same then we could end up with a lot of > broken stuff... just because mysql users think is wonderful to not > have to write sane code..

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Compatibility WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again

2009-08-27 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 15:51 -0700, Josh Berkus a écrit : > I doubt this would be an accurate description of all Drupal > developers. My opinion was : Before adding replication to PostgreSQL, it would be better to support a basic set of MySQL syntax seems relevant: DELETE FROM table1, table

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Compatibility WAS: postgresql.conf settings autoconfiguration

2009-08-27 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Dear all, Just a quick message about postgresql.conf auto-configuration. When MySQL users test PostgreSQL, they load their data and run simple SQL queries. If postgresql.conf is configured with default values, it may produce slow results. Would there be a way for postgresql.conf to auto configu

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Compatibility WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again

2009-08-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 16:56 -0400, Alvaro Herrera a écrit : > Have you tried Drupal 7? It's said to have many of these corrected. > Maybe you should stop wasting your time with 6.x. I am running a large community on the Net and people would like to migrate our framework to Drupal. We agreed

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Compatibility WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again

2009-08-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 22:06 +0100, Greg Stark a écrit : > With your current approach you're likely to get dismissed out of hand, > not unlike what I can well believe happened in the Drupal world. This is the case. > That > would be unfortunate because I think there are 2 or 3 real > improvem

Re: [HACKERS] MySQL Compatibility WAS: 8.5 release timetable, again

2009-08-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
> Second, we're not going to support MySQL's *bugs* and *bad design > decisions* which is what lazy developers actually want; they want > something exactly the same as MySQL, including bugs. If they want > that, > they can use MySQL. We are not MySQL, and trying to out-MySQL MySQL > is > stupid,

Re: [HACKERS] 8.5 release timetable, again

2009-08-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Dear Kevin > So when you talk about focusing on usablility improvements you mean > that priority should be given to supporting MySQL-specific syntax > extensions and ensuring that there are no queries where the MySQL > optimizer comes up with a more efficient plan than PostgreSQL? Yes. PostgreSQL

Re: [HACKERS] 8.5 release timetable, again

2009-08-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 09:30 -0500, Kevin Grittner a écrit : > It's not clear to me what you feel is needed. That could mean many > things Dear Kevin, I rarely post on Hackers, so I will try to explain: * I use PostgreSQL since 1998. * I took part in the development of pgAdmin 1&2. * I l

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL does CAST implicitely between int and a domain derive from int during SELECT query

2009-08-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 09:16 -0500, Kevin Grittner a écrit : > Please repost with that the pgsql-performance list Done: http://drupal.org/node/559986 Kind regards, JMP signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL does CAST implicitely between int and a domain derived from int during SELECT query

2009-08-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 10:07 -0400, Andrew Dunstan a écrit : > > Isn't that cast effectively a no-op? What is no-op in English (I am French, pardon my English). I will update table definition in 5 minutes. Stay tuned. Kind regards, Jean-Michel signature.asc Description: Ceci est une parti

Re: [HACKERS] 8.5 release timetable, again

2009-08-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Le mercredi 26 août 2009 à 01:36 -0600, Rick Gigger a écrit : > One possible reason that replication is more critical now than it > was > a year ago is the rise in cloud computing. The ability to fire up > instances on demand is much more useful when some of those boxes can > be database ser

[HACKERS] PostgreSQL does CAST implicitely between int and a domain derived from int during SELECT query

2009-08-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Dear friends, Thank you for your previous answers. I am running into a systemic problem using Drupal under PostgreSQL 8.4 Drupal relies heavily on a domain derived from int: CREATE DOMAIN int_unsigned AS integer CONSTRAINT int_unsigned_check CHECK ((VALUE >= 0)); Analysing slow queries, I

Re: [HACKERS] DELETE syntax on JOINS

2009-08-25 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
> With proper foreign keys and ON DELETE CASCADE, why would supporting > such syntax even be necessary? Porting existing abstraction layers from ANSI JOINs to ON DELETE CASCADE is complicated. > What I don't get is why this is such a usability issue. Subqueries in > DELETE FROM work perfectly we

[HACKERS] DELETE syntax on JOINS

2009-08-22 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Dear Friends, First, thank you very much for considering a fix on the GROUP BY issue. I am starting a new thread about another issue: It seems that DELETE cannot understand INNER JOINS and needs HAVING. Read: http://drupal.org/node/62 (main message) http://drupal.org/node/555648 I don't s

Re: [HACKERS] Feedback about Drupal SQL debugging

2009-08-21 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
> I've registered for the Drupal site so that I can fix and/or expand > some > of your items. Thanks. I corrected the index on dual fields page. > If you want to discuss Drupal & PostgreSQL again, please post on the > pgsql-advocacy list or the pgsql-php mailing lists. pgsql-hackers > isn't > th

[HACKERS] Feedback about Drupal SQL debugging

2009-08-21 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Dear friends, I have been using PostgreSQL since 6.3 releases and I am a real fan. Of course, I never use nor trust MySQL to deliver data. Now I use Drupal 6.3 with PostgreSQL 8.4. I loose a lot of time correcting Drupal SQL. You may be interested in my developer feedback. I gathered some rea

Re: [HACKERS] XML index support

2008-06-28 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Thank you all for these kind answers. Cheers, JMP -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

[HACKERS] XML index support

2008-06-27 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Dear friends, You may know me as I worked a long time ago on pgAdmin I with Dave. As this is an XML related question and XML is quite new, I am posting on hackers ML. We would like to develop a free REST database (real-estate standard) based on a PostgreSQL schema. This is a free solution for f

[HACKERS] XML index support

2008-06-27 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Dear friends, You may know me as I worked a long time ago on pgAdmin I with Dave. As this is an XML related question and XML is quite new, I am posting on hackers ML. If any solution is being developped, please inform us. We would like to develop a free REST database (real-estate standard) base

Re: [HACKERS] Postgresql Materialized views

2008-01-14 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
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Re: [HACKERS] Postgresql Materialized views

2008-01-13 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
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[HACKERS] Postgresql Materialized views

2008-01-12 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
. by a factor of 10 or more. Kind regards and happy new year. I hope that 2008 will be the year of materialized views. Jean-Michel Pouré ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

[HACKERS] Materialized Views in PostgreSQL

2005-09-12 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Dear friends and all, Johnathan Gardner did a wonderful job on materialized views: http://jonathangardner.net/PostgreSQL/materialized_views/matviews.html Are there any plans to integrate materialized views written in plain C in the future. This can help gain a lot of time in Web applications. F

[HACKERS] Materialized Views in PostgreSQL

2005-09-12 Thread Jean-Michel Pouré
Dear friends and all, Johnathan Gardner did a wonderful job on materialized views: http://jonathangardner.net/PostgreSQL/materialized_views/matviews.html Are there any plans to integrate materialized views written in plain C in the future. This can help gain a lot of time in Web applications. F