Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] What can we learn from MySQL?

2004-05-03 Thread Andrew Payne
Bruce wrote: > Now, if you are asking about marketing, yea, we don't have much in that > area right now, and we need it. I think your point was that we need a > single controlling company to provide marketing because if there are > many, there is little incentive to market PostgreSQL because all

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] What can we learn from MySQL?

2004-05-03 Thread Andrew Payne
Scott Marlowe wrote: > While Apache is and has been wildly popular for bulk hosing and domain > parking, for serious commercial use, Netscape's enterprise server, now Sun > One, has long been a leader in commercial web sites. Netscrape/SunONE may have been a leader in some sub-market, but this m

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] What can we learn from MySQL?

2004-05-03 Thread Andrew Payne
Bruce wrote: > > Does anyone know of an open source project that *has* successfully displaced > > a market of mature, established products WITHOUT a commercial entity > > providing marketing, support & direction? > > Linux. It doesn't have a single company behind it, but several. Uh, no. Linux

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] What can we learn from MySQL?

2004-05-01 Thread Andrew Payne
Joshua wrote: > Why would someone fund a "new" PostgreSQL project when there are several > viable commercial entities doing the job right now? Four words: "size of marketing budget". As a technology guy, it bugs me to acknowledge that. But having lived through this a few times, it is the way

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] What can we learn from MySQL?

2004-04-30 Thread Andrew Payne
Bruce wrote: > Remember, we all came to PostgreSQL because of the community > development, so we can't expect us to get excited about something that > risks that just to "win", as you say. If we had gone in this direction > with Great Bridge, we would have seriously injured PostgreSQL and it > m