On Friday, April 05, 2013 10:00 AM Rodrigo Barboza wrote:
> I am creating my own uint32 type and faced this function.
> But my args are always of type my_int and one of the signed int types as
postgres doesn't hava unsigned.
> Could I use those functions in operations between those types?
It shou
On Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:12 PM Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Greg Smith
> wrote:
> > On 4/2/13 11:54 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
> >> But, having said that, I still think the best idea is what Andres
> >> proposed, which pretty much matches my own thoughts: the bgwriter
> >>
On 5 April 2013 15:05, Tom Lane wrote:
> Brendan Jurd writes:
>> While I was in there I noticed CARDINALITY, which would be pretty easy
>> to add and would at least provide a more productive way to get the
>> "real" length of an array without disrupting existing functionality:
>
> Yeah, that woul
On Friday, April 05, 2013 1:59 AM Robert Haas wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Dimitri Fontaine
> wrote:
> > Robert Haas writes:
> >> for estimate_worstcase_fraction. So, when computing the cost of a
> >> path, we'd compute our current expected-case estimate, and also a
> >> worst-case e
I am creating my own uint32 type and faced this function.
But my args are always of type my_int and one of the signed int types as
postgres doesn't hava unsigned.
Could I use those functions in operations between those types?
I can't see a place for this, I don't know if I am missing something
On Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:30 PM Rodrigo Barboza wrote:
> Hi guys.
> I am wondering when I can use the PG_GETARG_UINT32 and PG_RETURN_UINT32.
> If postgres has no unsigned int type, what is the use of these macros?
They are mainly used for contrib module functionality or some built-in
function
Brendan Jurd writes:
> On 5 April 2013 13:04, Tom Lane wrote:
>> (There's been a remarkable lack of attention to the question
>> of spec compliance in this thread, btw. Surely the standard has
>> something to say on the matter of zero-length arrays?)
> The language specifically allows for zero
On 5 April 2013 13:04, Tom Lane wrote:
> (There's been a remarkable lack of attention to the question
> of spec compliance in this thread, btw. Surely the standard has
> something to say on the matter of zero-length arrays?)
From 4.10 in my draft copy of "Foundation", arrays are one of two
"coll
Brendan Jurd writes:
> The other suggestion that had been tossed around elsewhere upthread
> was inventing a new type that serves the demand for a straightforward
> mutable list, which has exactly one dimension, and which may be
> sensibly empty. Those few who are interested in dimensions >= 2 co
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 21:06 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> I can't escape the feeling that we'd just be reinventing software RAID.
> There's no reason to think that we can deal with this class of problems
> better than the storage system can.
The goal would be to reliably detect a situation where WAL th
On 5 April 2013 07:43, Tom Lane wrote:
> Well, if we're going to take that hard a line on it, then we can't
> change anything about array data storage or the existing functions'
> behavior; which leaves us with either doing nothing at all, or
> inventing new functions that have saner behavior whil
Jeff Davis writes:
> On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 14:21 -0700, Jeff Janes wrote:
>> This brings up a pretty frightening possibility to me, unrelated to
>> data checksums. If a bit gets twiddled in the WAL file due to a
>> hardware issue or a "cosmic ray", and then a crash happens, automatic
>> recovery
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 22:39 +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
> I don't think its really slower. Earlier the code took WalInsertLock
> everytime, even if we ended up not logging anything. Thats far more
> epensive than a single spinlock. And the copy should also only be taken
> in the case we need to log
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 14:21 -0700, Jeff Janes wrote:
> This brings up a pretty frightening possibility to me, unrelated to
> data checksums. If a bit gets twiddled in the WAL file due to a
> hardware issue or a "cosmic ray", and then a crash happens, automatic
> recovery will stop early with the
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
>
> I whacked this around some more, added basic docs, and committed it.
>
>
Thanks!
> > Unfortunately rl_clear_screen() is not included at all in libedit,
> causing
> > compilation to fail, and I was completely unable to find a way to
> > distin
Will Leinweber writes:
> Here is an updated patch that addresses several of the points brought up so
> far, such as the sleep, internationalization banner, and zero wait check,
> and it removes the premature input check.
I whacked this around some more, added basic docs, and committed it.
> Unfo
Tom Lane escribió:
> Noah Misch writes:
> > A slight variation on the committed approach would be to add a "_scannable"
> > relation fork.
>
> Not very transaction-safe, I think (consider crash midway through a
> transaction that adds or removes the fork), and in any case orders of
> magnitude m
Noah Misch writes:
> On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 05:49:18PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> No. This is an absolute disaster. It's taking something we have always
>> considered to be an irrelevant implementation detail and making it into
>> user-visible DDL state, despite the fact that it doesn't begin to
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 12:28:01PM +0200, Nicolas Barbier wrote:
> 2013/4/3 Tom Lane :
> > And if you're absolutely convinced that unlogged matviews mustn't work as I
> > suggest, we can lose those from 9.3, too.
>
> +1. Having unlogged matviews without having incremental updates yet,
> isn't supe
Subject updated to account for the wider topics now appearing.
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 05:49:18PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> What I'd actually rather see us spending time on right now is making
> some provision for incremental updates, which I will boldly propose
> could be supported by user-written
Alvaro Herrera writes:
> Now, it annoys me that we now have three places that know about object
> types supported by event triggers: there's a large struct of command tag
> substrings (event_trigger_support), then there's these two functions.
> It might be better to add ObjectType and ObjectClass
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Simon Riggs wrote:
> On 4 April 2013 02:39, Andres Freund wrote:
>
> > If by now the first backend has proceeded to PageSetLSN() we are writing
> > different data to disk than the one we computed the checksum of
> > before. Boom.
>
> Right, so nothing else we were
"David E. Wheeler" writes:
> On Apr 3, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> Right -- an extension is not considered to live within a schema, they
>> are database-global. The objects might live in a particular schema (if
>> it is "relocatable"), and there's support to move those to a diffe
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 04:16:12PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Stephen Frost (sfr...@snowman.net) wrote:
> > It does look like reducing bucket depth, as I outlined before through
> > the use of a 2-level hashing system, might help speed up
> > ExecScanHashBucket, as it would hopefully have very
Robert Haas writes:
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Merlin Moncure wrote:
>> The only reasonable answer for this (a provably used, non-security,
>> non-standards violating, non-gross functionality breakage case) is
>> *zero*.
> +1.
Well, if we're going to take that hard a line on it, then we
On 2013-04-04 12:59:36 -0700, Jeff Davis wrote:
> Andres,
>
> Thank you for diagnosing this problem!
>
> On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 16:53 +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
> > I think the route you quickly sketched is more realistic. That would
> > remove all knowledge obout XLOG_HINT from generic code hich
Will Leinweber wrote:
> On ref 8507907 when compiling with clang on os x, I got this warning which
> seems like a possible bug.
>
> I thought to report this because I imagine clang isn't frequently used
> day-to-day by most.
Ugh. My fault. Yes, this is a bug.
I don't see any nice way to conver
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> The only reasonable answer for this (a provably used, non-security,
> non-standards violating, non-gross functionality breakage case) is
> *zero*.
+1.
--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Compa
Stephen Frost writes:
> Looking with opannotate, there's two main hotspots in
> ExecScanHashBucket:
> 12846 17.4001 :hashTuple =
> hashtable->buckets[hjstate->hj_CurBucketNo];
> and
> 22100 29.9348 :hashTuple = hashTuple->next;
Those are, of course, pretty trivial statements;
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Dimitri Fontaine wrote:
> Robert Haas writes:
>> for estimate_worstcase_fraction. So, when computing the cost of a
>> path, we'd compute our current expected-case estimate, and also a
>> worst-case estimate, and then compute the final cost as:
>
> There also was t
* Stephen Frost (sfr...@snowman.net) wrote:
> It does look like reducing bucket depth, as I outlined before through
> the use of a 2-level hashing system, might help speed up
> ExecScanHashBucket, as it would hopefully have very few (eg: 1-2)
> entries to consider instead of more. Along those same
Andres,
Thank you for diagnosing this problem!
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 16:53 +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
> I think the route you quickly sketched is more realistic. That would
> remove all knowledge obout XLOG_HINT from generic code hich is a very
> good thing, I spent like 15minutes yesterday wond
On 04/04/2013 03:39 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Andrew Dunstan writes:
David Wheeler has presented me with a nasty bug case.
If I do this:
select '{"members": { "add": [3, 4]}}'::json #> '{members,add}';
then I get a crash.
If I comment out the pfree() at json.c:parse_object_field() lines 378-9
t
Andrew Dunstan writes:
> David Wheeler has presented me with a nasty bug case.
> If I do this:
> select '{"members": { "add": [3, 4]}}'::json #> '{members,add}';
> then I get a crash.
> If I comment out the pfree() at json.c:parse_object_field() lines 378-9
> then I get back the right resu
* Stephen Frost (sfr...@snowman.net) wrote:
> 8504125241524.3624 72.3115mcount.c:60
> libc-2.15.so __mcount_internal
> 28370280785 8.1274 80.4389_mcount.S:33
> libc-2.15.so mcount
[...]
And as a side-note, I
* Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote:
> perf or oprofile reveal anything?
Here's what we get from oprofile (perhaps not too surprising):
Hash the small table / scan the big table:
samples cum. samples %cum. % linenr info image
name symbol name
167374
Robert Haas writes:
> for estimate_worstcase_fraction. So, when computing the cost of a
> path, we'd compute our current expected-case estimate, and also a
> worst-case estimate, and then compute the final cost as:
There also was the idea for the executor to be able to handle alternate
plans and
* Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote:
> > What I'm trying to get at in this overall email is: why in the world is
> > it so expensive to do hash lookups?
>
> perf or oprofile reveal anything?
Working on a test case actually- I've got one now:
http://snowman.net/~sfrost/test_case2.sql
In this ex
Stephen Frost writes:
> I've been fiddling with this on the very much larger overall database
> where this test case came from and have found that hashing the large
> table can actually be *faster* and appears to cause a more consistent
> and constant amount of disk i/o (which is good).
Interesti
On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Vibhor Kumar
wrote:
>
> On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Joe Conway wrote:
>
>> On 03/25/2013 08:12 AM, Vibhor Kumar wrote:
>>> Since, nobody has picked this one.
>>>
>>> If there is no objection,then I can test this patch against 9.1 & 9.2.
>>
>> Here are diffs
Early versions of the matview patch had a relisvalid flag in
pg_class to determine whether the relation was scannable. The name
was chosen based on a similarity to the purpose of indisvalid,
although the proliferation of new bools for related issues left me
wondering if a "char" would be a better
Tom, all,
* Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote:
> So that's at least going in the right direction.
I agree that this is going in the right direction; it certainly would
make the plan that I *expect* to be chosen more likely, however..
I've been fiddling with this on the very much larger overall
David Wheeler has presented me with a nasty bug case.
If I do this:
select '{"members": { "add": [3, 4]}}'::json #> '{members,add}';
then I get a crash.
If I comment out the pfree() at json.c:parse_object_field() lines 378-9
then I get back the right result but instead get a warning like t
On 04.04.2013 03:32, Noah Misch wrote:
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 08:09:15PM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
--- a/src/include/regex/regguts.h
+++ b/src/include/regex/regguts.h
@@ -148,6 +148,7 @@
typedef short color; /* colors of characters */
typedef int pcolor;
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 08:48:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I found that psql will crash if given a PSQLRC value containing a tilde:
>
> $ PSQLRC="~/x" psql test
> *** glibc detected *** psql: free(): invalid pointer:
> 0x7fffb7c933ec ***
>
> This is on Debian Squeeze 6.0.7.
On 4 April 2013 15:53, Andres Freund wrote:
> Unfortunately I find that approach unacceptably ugly.
Yeh. If we can confirm its a fix we can discuss a cleaner patch and
that is much better.
--
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PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Trai
On Apr 4, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Dimitri Fontaine wrote:
> "David E. Wheeler" writes:
>> +Note that only the extension objects will be placed into the named
>> +schema; the extension itself is a database-global object.
>
> I think you're patching the right place, but I'm not sure abo
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Greg Stark wrote:
> I used to advocate a similar idea. But when questioned on list I tried to
> work out the details and ran into some problem coming up with a concrete
> plan.
>
> How do you compare a plan that you think has a 99% chance of running in 1ms
> but a 1
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> In any case, the whole exercise is pointless if we don't change the
> visible behavior of array_dims et al. So I think the idea that this
> would be without visible consequence is silly. What's up for argument
> is just how much incompatibility
Hi guys.
I am wondering when I can use the PG_GETARG_UINT32 and PG_RETURN_UINT32.
If postgres has no unsigned int type, what is the use of these macros?
On 2013-04-04 13:30:40 +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
> On 4 April 2013 02:39, Andres Freund wrote:
>
> > Ok, I think I see the bug. And I think its been introduced in the
> > checkpoints patch.
>
> Well spotted. (I think you mean checksums patch).
Heh, yes. I was slightly tired at that point ;)
> >
With --disable-spinlocks, we need to know the number of spinlocks in the
system at startup, so that we can reserve enough semaphores to mimic the
spinlocks. It's calculated in SpinLockSemas():
/*
* Report number of semaphores needed to support spinlocks.
*/
int
SpinlockSemas(void)
{
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Greg Smith wrote:
> On 4/2/13 11:54 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
>> But, having said that, I still think the best idea is what Andres
>> proposed, which pretty much matches my own thoughts: the bgwriter
>> needs to populate the free list, so that buffer allocations don't
On 4 April 2013 02:39, Andres Freund wrote:
> Ok, I think I see the bug. And I think its been introduced in the
> checkpoints patch.
Well spotted. (I think you mean checksums patch).
> If by now the first backend has proceeded to PageSetLSN() we are writing
> different data to disk than the one
Hi,
I though we were more specific about an extension's object itself not
living in a schema in our documentation, but I agree we still have room
for progress here.
"David E. Wheeler" writes:
> +Note that only the extension objects will be placed into the named
> +schema; the ext
2013/4/3 Tom Lane :
> Kevin Grittner writes:
>
>> To be honest, I don't think I've personally seen a single use case
>> for matviews where they could be used if you couldn't count on an
>> error if attempting to use them without the contents reflecting a
>> materialization of the associated query
On Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:19 AM Greg Smith wrote:
> On 4/2/13 11:54 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
> > But, having said that, I still think the best idea is what Andres
> > proposed, which pretty much matches my own thoughts: the bgwriter
> > needs to populate the free list, so that buffer allocations
On Thursday, April 04, 2013 2:52 AM Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Robert Haas writes:
> >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Peter Eisentraut
> wrote:
> >>> It's weird that SET LOCAL and SET SESSION actually *set* the value,
> and
> >>> the second key wo
2013-04-03 20:58 keltezéssel, Gavin Flower írta:
On 04/04/13 05:36, David E. Wheeler wrote:
On Apr 3, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
Fortran ... Basic ... actually I'd have thought that zero was a
minority position. Fashions change I guess.
I say we turn the default lower bound up to 11.
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