Re: [HACKERS] External Open Standards

2012-05-20 Thread Daniel Farina
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Brendan Jurd wrote: > What we don't do is *output* the 'T', but this is pretty easy to > workaround, e.g., to_char(now(), '-MM-DD"T"HH24:MI:SS').  The > scope of  actually wanting the 'T' is surely pretty minor? > > I'd be okay with just adding a note in the m

Re: [HACKERS] External Open Standards

2012-05-20 Thread Brendan Jurd
On 20 May 2012 01:52, Daniel Farina wrote: > The documentation is misleading to the point of our support for ISO > 8601-strict parsing. > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2012-02/msg01237.php > > A very fine point, but I discovered it not out of curiosity, but a > fairly angry user o

Re: [HACKERS] Schema version management

2012-05-20 Thread Joel Jacobson
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Daniel Farina wrote: > Also, now that I look more carefully, there was a lot of conversation > about this patch; it seems like what you are doing now is reporting > its successful use, and I did not understand that by reading the > abstract of your email.  And, be

Re: [HACKERS] Remove readline notice from psql --version?

2012-05-20 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera writes: > Excerpts from Tom Lane's message of dom may 20 23:04:59 -0400 2012: >> And, more to the point, would it be more reliable than checking the >> results of system-specific tools such as ldd? > If well implemented, my guess is that it would be. For example recall > that in D

Re: [HACKERS] Remove readline notice from psql --version?

2012-05-20 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Tom Lane's message of dom may 20 23:04:59 -0400 2012: > > Alvaro Herrera writes: > > Excerpts from David Fetter's message of dom may 20 15:30:52 -0400 2012: > >> I think this should be replaced with a notice about the actual library > >> used. > > > That was my thought as well, bu

Re: [HACKERS] Schema version management

2012-05-20 Thread Daniel Farina
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Joel Jacobson wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Daniel Farina wrote: >> I think you are absolutely right, but I'm not sure if teaching pg_dump >> a new option is the best idea.  It's a pretty complex program as-is. >> I've also heard some people who really

Re: [HACKERS] Remove readline notice from psql --version?

2012-05-20 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera writes: > Excerpts from David Fetter's message of dom may 20 15:30:52 -0400 2012: >> I think this should be replaced with a notice about the actual library >> used. > That was my thought as well, but is it possible to implement it? And, more to the point, would it be more reliable

Re: [HACKERS] Remove readline notice from psql --version?

2012-05-20 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from David Fetter's message of dom may 20 15:30:52 -0400 2012: > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 01:24:21AM +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > Currently, psql --version prints something like > > > > psql (PostgreSQL) 9.2beta1 > > contains support for command-line editing > > I think this should

Re: [HACKERS] Schema version management

2012-05-20 Thread Joel Jacobson
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Daniel Farina wrote: > I think you are absolutely right, but I'm not sure if teaching pg_dump > a new option is the best idea.  It's a pretty complex program as-is. > I've also heard some people who really wish pg knew how to self-dump > for valid reasons. Complex

Re: [HACKERS] Schema version management

2012-05-20 Thread Daniel Farina
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Joel Jacobson wrote: > Hi, > > I just read a very interesting post about "schema version management". > > Quote: "You could set it up so that every developer gets their own > test database, sets up the schema there, takes a dump, and checks that > in. There are go

Re: [HACKERS] Why is indexonlyscan so darned slow?

2012-05-20 Thread Robert Haas
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Another possibility is to try to reduce the costs of index_getnext_tid > and FunctionCall2Coll, which are basically just trampolines to reach > btgettuple.  It's not immediately obvious how to make that much better > though. Hmm... this seems awf

[HACKERS] Schema version management

2012-05-20 Thread Joel Jacobson
Hi, I just read a very interesting post about "schema version management". Quote: "You could set it up so that every developer gets their own test database, sets up the schema there, takes a dump, and checks that in. There are going to be problems with that, including that dumps produced by pg_du

Re: [HACKERS] Remove readline notice from psql --version?

2012-05-20 Thread David Fetter
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 01:24:21AM +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Currently, psql --version prints something like > > psql (PostgreSQL) 9.2beta1 > contains support for command-line editing I think this should be replaced with a notice about the actual library used. Cheers, David. -- David Fet

Re: [HACKERS] Why is indexonlyscan so darned slow?

2012-05-20 Thread Tom Lane
Jeff Janes writes: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Joshua Berkus wrote: >> That's in-RAM speed ... I ran the query twice to make sure the index was >> cached, and it didn't get any better. And I meant 5X per byte rather than >> 5X per tuple. > Ah, OK that makes more sense. I played aroun

Re: [HACKERS] read() returns ERANGE in Mac OS X

2012-05-20 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Florian Pflug's message of sáb may 19 03:48:51 -0400 2012: > > On May18, 2012, at 23:18 , Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Excerpts from Florian Pflug's message of jue may 17 09:08:26 -0400 2012: > > Seems to me that we could make zero_damaged_pages an enum. The default > > value of "on"

Re: [HACKERS] Remove readline notice from psql --version?

2012-05-20 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut writes: > Currently, psql --version prints something like > psql (PostgreSQL) 9.2beta1 > contains support for command-line editing > I think the notice about readline is a leftover from the old days when > psql was often built without any readline support. Nowadays, this looks >

Re: [HACKERS] weird error message in sepgsql

2012-05-20 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut writes: > I found this in contrib/sepgsql/expected/label.out: > SECURITY LABEL ON COLUMN t2 > IS 'system_u:object_r:sepgsql_ro_table_t:s0'; -- be failed > ERROR: improper relation name (too many dotted names): > Contrast with: > SECURITY LABEL ON COLUMN t2.b > IS 'sy

Re: [HACKERS] temporal support patch

2012-05-20 Thread Pavel Stehule
Hello 2012/5/18 Miroslav Šimulčík : > Hello. > > SQL 2011 standard wasn't available in time I started this project so I built > my implementation on older standards TSQL2 and SQL/Temporal, that were only > available. None of these were accepted by ANSI/ISO commissions however. > > There is differe

Re: [HACKERS] patch for type privileges

2012-05-20 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On lör, 2011-12-10 at 16:16 +0100, Yeb Havinga wrote: > > * Cannot restrict access to array types. After revoking usage from the > element type, the error is perhaps a bit misleading. (smallint[] vs > smallint) > > postgres=> create table a (a int2[]); > ERROR: permission denied for type small