[HACKERS] [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Dave Page
hold the presses... Narwhal just broke :-( Original Message Subject: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:23:06 -0800 (PST) From: PG Build Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The P

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 'k, 2.59 isn't even available in FreeBSD ports anymore, only 2.13 and 2.61, > so > can someone else please run autoconf and commit, and I'll re-tag ... Done regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)-

[HACKERS] GiST crash recovery (potential problems?)

2007-11-15 Thread Koichi Suzuki
Hi, In GiST, I found that after the crash recovery, NSN and right page link are initialized. We can search all the records in this case but performance may become a little worse because we cannot traverse leaves. I'm not sure if it is preffered behavior. -- Koichi Suzuki ---

[HACKERS] Heads up: 8.3beta3 to be wrapped this evening

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Any last-minute fixes out there? With luck this will be the last beta --- we are thinking RC1 in about two weeks and final in early December, if no showstopper bugs are reported. So get out there and test it ... regards, tom lane ---(end of broadc

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 00:40:31 -0500 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 00:03:46 -0500 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Either that or we try

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 00:03:46 -0500 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Either that or we try to move up all supported back branches to the >> latest autoconf version; which might be a good idea but it scares me >> a bit. > That wo

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, November 15, 2007 21:21:59 -0800 "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 > >> That would be a good idea, and really simply things ... FreeBSD seems

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, November 16, 2007 00:03:46 -0500 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I can't commit but I can give access to a 2.59 version... > >> Well, easiest is f

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I can't commit but I can give access to a 2.59 version... > Well, easiest is for Tom to run autoconf 2.59 and commit ... or Bruce ... Locally I've got several autoconf versions installed so that I can update back-bran

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, November 15, 2007 20:49:04 -0800 "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'k, 2.59 isn't even available in FreeBSD ports anymo

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'k, 2.59 isn't even available in FreeBSD ports anymore, only 2.13 and 2.61, so can someone else please run autoconf and commit, and I'll re-tag ... I can't commit but I can give access to a 2.59 version... Sincerely, J

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Tom Lane wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier) writes: configure (r1.570 -> r1.571) (http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/configure?r1=1.570&r2=1.571) It appears that Marc has got autoconf 2.61 installed now, instead of the 2.59 that we've been using for some

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: update files for beta3

2007-11-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'k, 2.59 isn't even available in FreeBSD ports anymore, only 2.13 and 2.61, so can someone else please run autoconf and commit, and I'll re-tag ... - --On Thursday, November 15, 2007 23:37:22 -0500 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROT

Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Let me know when ready to proceed ... I just fixed a second bug in that patch :-( But I think we're good to go now. Note that none of the version-stamping has been done yet. Also, I'm not sure where Bruce is with his pgindent stuff.

Re: [HACKERS] Terminal width for help output

2007-11-15 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Do we care to maintain a maximum width for programs' --help output (and > psql's > \?)? I think 79 characters was once a recommendation (or perhaps 72), but we > have a couple of violations either way, which I'd like to fix, but what to? 79 is perfect IMHO. It would

[HACKERS] Re: [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Let me know when ready to proceed ... - --On Thursday, November 15, 2007 16:30:00 -0500 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> hold the presses... >> Narwhal just broke :-( > > Grumble ... looks like we have

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tom Lane wrote: > >> I already asked Dave if he could force a rebuild from home, no go :-( > > > I will force one in a few minutes. > > narwhal and dawn_bat are both showing green, so I think we're ready to > wrap at Marc's convenie

Re: [HACKERS] Terminal width for help output

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do we care to maintain a maximum width for programs' --help output (and > psql's > \?)? I think 79 characters was once a recommendation (or perhaps 72), but we > have a couple of violations either way, which I'd like to fix, but what to? I think 7

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> I already asked Dave if he could force a rebuild from home, no go :-( > I will force one in a few minutes. narwhal and dawn_bat are both showing green, so I think we're ready to wrap at Marc's convenience. re

Re: [HACKERS] Terminal width for help output

2007-11-15 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Bruce Momjian wrote: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Do we care to maintain a maximum width for programs' --help output (and psql's \?)? I think 79 characters was once a recommendation (or perhaps 72), but we have a couple of violations either way, which I'd like to fix, but what to? Yea,

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
"Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Since we are waiting anyway, something I brought up to Dave about this > exact problem was the idea of a "freeze" :). E.g; All animals must go > green and stay green with zero additional commits for 24 hours before > we wrap. > Is that something that

Re: [PERFORM] [HACKERS] 8.3beta1 testing on Solaris

2007-11-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
This has been saved for the 8.4 release: http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches_hold --- Jignesh K. Shah wrote: > > I changed CLOG Buffers to 16 > > Running the test again: > # ./read.d > dtrace: script

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Tom Lane wrote: Devrim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=DCND=DCZ?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 21:26 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Any idea on how often narwhal will do a build? It looks that it builds -HEAD every 6 hours: http://pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_histo

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Devrim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=DCND=DCZ?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 21:26 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> Any idea on how often narwhal will do a build? > It looks that it builds -HEAD every 6 hours: > http://pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_history.pl?nm=narwhal&br=HEAD > and t

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'k, then I'd say let's wait ... I'll aim for 00:00 AST to do the build, which gives ~2.25hrs from now, which should be loads of time, right? - --On Thursday, November 15, 2007 17:35:32 -0800 Devrim GÜNDÜZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Th

Re: [HACKERS] Re: [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
Hi, On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 21:26 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Any idea on how often narwhal will do a build? It looks that it builds -HEAD every 6 hours: http://pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_history.pl?nm=narwhal&br=HEAD and the next build is 2 hours later. Regards, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ ,

[HACKERS] Re: [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Let me know when ready to proceed ... > > I just fixed a second bug in that patch :-( > But I think we're good to go now. > Note that none of the version-stamping has been done yet. Right, I believe only Marc does that. I have

Re: [HACKERS] Terminal width for help output

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also it would rock if translation kept the alignment in various output. Theoretically the translators are supposed to do that already ... regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--

Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: PGBuildfarm member narwhal Branch HEAD Status changed from OK to Make failure]

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Dave Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hold the presses... > Narwhal just broke :-( Grumble ... looks like we have to use ftruncate to keep Windows happy. Will fix. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have yo

Re: [HACKERS] Terminal width for help output

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:04:46 -0500 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Do we care to maintain a maximum width for programs' --help output > > (and psql's \?)? I think 79 characters was once a recomme

Re: [HACKERS] Terminal width for help output

2007-11-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Do we care to maintain a maximum width for programs' --help output (and > psql's > \?)? I think 79 characters was once a recommendation (or perhaps 72), but we > have a couple of violations either way, which I'd like to fix, but what to? Yea, I went over with the pg_c

Re: [HACKERS] Terminal width for help output

2007-11-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:58:28 +0100 Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do we care to maintain a maximum width for programs' --help output > (and psql's \?)? I think 79 characters was once a recommendation (or > perhaps 72), but we have a co

[HACKERS] Terminal width for help output

2007-11-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Do we care to maintain a maximum width for programs' --help output (and psql's \?)? I think 79 characters was once a recommendation (or perhaps 72), but we have a couple of violations either way, which I'd like to fix, but what to? -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/

Re: [HACKERS] psql -f doesn't complain about directories

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Donnerstag, 15. November 2007 schrieb Tom Lane: >> This seems too far removed from the scene of the crime > Yeah, my zeroth attempt was to place this in gets_fromFile(), but there you > don't have any opportunity to report failure to the main loop

Re: [HACKERS] LDC - Load Distributed Checkpoints with PG8.3b2 on Solaris

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
"Jignesh K. Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I will turn on checkpoint_logging to get more idea as Heikki suggested Did you find out anything? Did this happen on every checkpoint, or only some of them? The bug Itagaki-san pointed out today in IsCheckpointOnSchedule might account for some chec

Re: [HACKERS] Heads up: 8.3beta3 to be wrapped this evening

2007-11-15 Thread andrew
> Any last-minute fixes out there? > > With luck this will be the last beta --- we are thinking RC1 in about > two weeks and final in early December, if no showstopper bugs are > reported. So get out there and test it ... > I will not have time to fix the default TS parser before then. There's a

Re: [HACKERS] LDC - Load Distributed Checkpoints with PG8.3b2 on Solaris

2007-11-15 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tom Lane wrote: > Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tom Lane wrote: > >> it seems like a serious omission that this gives you no hint how many > >> pages were scanned. > > Too complex for my taste, anyway. I would be satisfied if the log > entries just indicated how big the table and

Re: [HACKERS] LDC - Load Distributed Checkpoints with PG8.3b2 on Solaris

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> it seems like a serious omission that this gives you no hint how many >> pages were scanned. > Hmm, right. I'm not sure how to fix it; the simplest idea is to count > the number of heap page accesses in lazy_scan_heap, but this would

Re: [HACKERS] LDC - Load Distributed Checkpoints with PG8.3b2 on Solaris

2007-11-15 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tom Lane wrote: > > 2007-11-13 09:21:19.830 PST 9458 LOG: automatic vacuum of table > > "specdb.public.txn_log_table": index scans: 1 > > pages: 11 removed, 105 remain > > tuples: 3147 removed, 40 remain > > system usage: CPU 0.11s/0.09u sec elapsed 6.02 sec > > it seem

Re: [HACKERS] psql -f doesn't complain about directories

2007-11-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Donnerstag, 15. November 2007 schrieb Tom Lane: > This seems too far removed from the scene of the crime Yeah, my zeroth attempt was to place this in gets_fromFile(), but there you don't have any opportunity to report failure to the main loop. We'd need to change the function signature to be

Re: [HACKERS] psql -f doesn't complain about directories

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 schrieb Martijn van Oosterhout: >> It's not the fopen that fails, it's the fgets that returns NULL. We >> don't subsequently check if that's due to an I/O error or EISDIR or if >> it's an end-of-file. > Here is a patch f

Re: [HACKERS] Simplifying Text Search

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 schrieb Trevor Talbot: >> But that coversion itself is fundamentally flawed, is the problem. > I know it's incorrect, but with a different parser and/or dictionary you > could > make it work. No, I don't think so. Tr

Re: [HACKERS] Simplifying Text Search

2007-11-15 Thread Trevor Talbot
On 11/15/07, Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In practice, the search pattern will mostly be provided dynamically from some > user input, so you could conceivably be able to modify the search patterns > more readily than the entire queries in your application. Anyway, it's just > an

Re: [HACKERS] LDC - Load Distributed Checkpoints with PG8.3b2 on Solaris

2007-11-15 Thread Jignesh K. Shah
Yes I separate out as follows: PGDATA + 1 TABLE which needs to be cached (also workaround CLOG read problem) LOGS DATABASE TABLES DATABASE INDEX to get a good view of IOs out I have full_page_writes=off in my settings I dont see spikes of increase on WAL during checkpoints (maybe due to my se

Re: [HACKERS] Simplifying Text Search

2007-11-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 schrieb Trevor Talbot: > But that coversion itself is fundamentally flawed, is the problem. I know it's incorrect, but with a different parser and/or dictionary you could make it work. In practice, the search pattern will mostly be provided dynamically from some u

Re: [HACKERS] psql -f doesn't complain about directories

2007-11-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 schrieb Martijn van Oosterhout: > It's not the fopen that fails, it's the fgets that returns NULL. We > don't subsequently check if that's due to an I/O error or EISDIR or if > it's an end-of-file. Here is a patch for this. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.post

Re: [HACKERS] psql -f doesn't complain about directories

2007-11-15 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Martijn van Oosterhout napsal(a): On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 09:33:17PM +0100, Zdenek Kotala wrote: Sure, why not. To be honest I think that psql shouldn't be ignoring the EISDIR error the kernel is returning. But it works when you open directory in read-only mode. See posix definition: [EISDIR]

Re: [HACKERS] LDC - Load Distributed Checkpoints with PG8.3b2 on Solaris

2007-11-15 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
Tom Lane wrote: Looking at the autovacuum log output, 2007-11-13 09:21:19.830 PST 9458 LOG: automatic vacuum of table "specdb.public.txn_log_table": index scans: 1 pages: 11 removed, 105 remain tuples: 3147 removed, 40 remain system usage: CPU 0.11s/0.09u sec elapsed

Re: [HACKERS] LDC - Load Distributed Checkpoints with PG8.3b2 on Solaris

2007-11-15 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
Jignesh K. Shah wrote: Since its really writes that I am having trouble.. the auto vacuum message tells me 11 pages were removed and so many tuples were removed.. I am guessing its writes. Do you keep track of I/O to WAL and data separately? WAL bandwidth will spike up when a checkpoint star