Re: [HACKERS] Indexed views?

2004-09-10 Thread Greg Stark
Mischa Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I take it that it is a very reasonable assumption that only a small proportion > of index records are actually invalid (else Yurk why use the index?). That's faulty logic, the percentage of tuples that are valid is entirely independent from the perc

Re: [HACKERS] Unknown Exception (chr@active.ch)

2004-09-10 Thread chr
Achtung neue Mail-Adresse ! Neu: vorname.familienname bei gleichem Provider oder rufen Sie uns bitte an (01/977 13 77) und wir werde die neue Adresse mitteilen. Leider erhalten wir pro Tag mehr als 100 Mails welche wir nicht wollen. Wir haben uns daher entschieden, eine neue Adresse zu waehlen.

[HACKERS] beta 2 crash with unique constraints

2004-09-10 Thread Daniel Schuchardt
Hi List, I have another error now here: notice that only one backend is dying, all others are up and working. Error - Message : duplicate key violates unique constraint "ferber_rust_params_pkey" FATAL: block 0 of 1663/19335/476756 is still referenced (local 2) server closed the connection unexpect

[HACKERS] beta2 and blob's

2004-09-10 Thread Daniel Schuchardt
Hi with beta2 i get leak:relation "pg_largeobject_loid_pn_index" has refcnt 1 instead of 0 while running my script that's an example throwing this message UPDATE reports SET r_blob=lo_import('../reports.r_id.'|| CAST(r_id AS VARCHAR) || '.blob') WHERE r_blob IS NOT NULL PS : everything seem to be

[HACKERS] Error starting PostgreSQL on Win XP: failed to get token information: 122

2004-09-10 Thread Grossniklaus Bruno
Hi Thanks for PostgreSQL Beta 8.0! I try to use the native Win32 build (http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pginstaller) (Beta 1) but i get an error during DB startup. "failed to get token information: 122" Maybe this is related to http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=cftihc%247u

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Christopher Browne
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc G. Fournier") would write: > On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Gaetano Mendola wrote: >> Hi all, >> now that Apache Portable Runtime was release why don't >> use it on Postgres? > > Short question: why? what does it give us, other then potential

Re: [HACKERS] Supporting Encryption in Postgresql

2004-09-10 Thread Christopher Browne
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when Murat Kantarcioglu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> would write: > For our research project, I need to implement an encryption support > for Postgressql. At this current phase, I need to at least support > page level encryption In other words, each page that belongs to

Re: [HACKERS] Making AFTER triggers act properly in PL functions

2004-09-10 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Tom Lane wrote: > I wrote: > > Actually, I'd really like to get it back down to the 7.4 size, which was > > already too big :-(. That might be a vain hope though. > > As long as we're talking about hack-slash-and-burn on this data > structure ... > > The cases where people get

Re: [HACKERS] Making AFTER triggers act properly in PL functions

2004-09-10 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote: > Actually, I'd really like to get it back down to the 7.4 size, which was > already too big :-(. That might be a vain hope though. As long as we're talking about hack-slash-and-burn on this data structure ... The cases where people get annoyed by the size of the deferred trigger list a

[HACKERS] Plannings on Implementation of DECLARE CURSOR x for SELECT ... FOR UPDATE / UPDATE ... WHERE CURRENT OF ...

2004-09-10 Thread Hans Groschwitz
Hi, are you planning to implement WRITABLE cursors in one of the next releases of pgsql? If so, do you have some kind of roadmap about that? We are currently looking for a replacement rdbms for an informix based application with a duty of over 100 concurrent interactive user sessions. Therefore w

Re: [HACKERS] Indexed views?

2004-09-10 Thread Mischa Sandberg
Greg Stark wrote: Doug McNaught <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Short answer: MVCC tuple visibility status isn't (and can't be) stored in the index. Well the "can't" part is false or at least unproven. From prior discussion the only thing that would be technically challenging would be avoiding dead

[HACKERS] Help with check_pqsql PLUGIN!

2004-09-10 Thread Алексей Е. Невзоров
Hello, Hackers! I use Nagios – monitoring system. Can you help, please? I want to compile plugin for Nagios named ‘check_pqsql’. Which libraries I need to compile it successful? Thank you.

[HACKERS] Adding columns in the middle (Was: Developers page is down)

2004-09-10 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Sep 4, 2004, at 10:07 PM, Christopher Browne wrote: Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jaime Casanova) would write: By the way, will be a way in postgresql 8 to add a column in a middle of a table. just curious. What do you mean by "in a middle of a table?" A relation i

Re: [HACKERS] AIX and v8 beta1

2004-09-10 Thread Chris Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Taylor) writes: > On Sun, 2004-09-05 at 13:43, Tom Lane wrote: >> Rod Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > collect2: ld returned 254 exit status >> >> That's a fairly unhelpful error message, isn't it? >> >> I'm thinking that this may be due to having added the timezone

Re: [HACKERS] Developers page is down

2004-09-10 Thread Christopher Browne
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jaime Casanova) would write: > By the way, will be a way in postgresql 8 to add a > column in a middle of a table. just curious. What do you mean by "in a middle of a table?" A relation is simply a set of attributes that _don't_ forcibly

[HACKERS] Caught up on email

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, I am caught up on email now after five days of travel. I have loaded the patch queue for others to empty. Two weeks to go. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Ro

Re: [HACKERS] more dirmod CYGWIN

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On the /contrib issue, I am not sure we even have Mingw compiling > > contrib. What error are you seeing? If I try to compile > > /contrib/dbsize under Unix I don't see any -lpgport line in the > > compile: > > It doesn't need any. It's loaded i

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > There are alot of windows.h includes: > > > > > > ... and most of them are redundant because it is already included > > > via c.h. > > > > Right, but we only include windows.h in Mingw. >

Re: [HACKERS] x86_64 configure problem

2004-09-10 Thread Joe Conway
Gaetano Mendola wrote: Joe Conway wrote: # python -c "from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib as f; import os; print os.path.join(f(plat_specific=1,standard_lib=1),'config')" /usr/lib64/python2.3/config Any other proposals? If not, any objections to the attached patch? No one, we have to

Re: [HACKERS] tablespace question ... pg vs oracle

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > I have someone that is asking if you can recover some tablespaces in a > database, but leave the others online ... apparently its a feature of > tablespaces under Oracle ... I could see it for schemas, but sounds like > it could cause problems depeending on how you a

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > There are alot of windows.h includes: > > > > ... and most of them are redundant because it is already included > > via c.h. > > Right, but we only include windows.h in Mingw. That has nothing to do with my point. > Do

Re: [HACKERS] more dirmod CYGWIN

2004-09-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian wrote: > On the /contrib issue, I am not sure we even have Mingw compiling > contrib. What error are you seeing? If I try to compile > /contrib/dbsize under Unix I don't see any -lpgport line in the > compile: It doesn't need any. It's loaded in the backend, which already has libp

Re: [HACKERS] SELECT FOR UPDATE NOWAIT and PostgreSQL 8.0

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: [ PGP not available, raw data follows ] > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi, > > AFAIR there was a thread about "SELECT FOR UPDATE NOWAIT" availability in > {7.5,8.0}, 7-8 months ago. > > Now we have LOCK TABLE ... NOWAIT; but I wonder whether we'll

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] more dirmod CYGWIN

2004-09-10 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On the /contrib issue, I am not sure we even have Mingw compiling contrib. We don't --- apparently the win32 crowd hadn't bothered to try it until recently. There are a couple of patches in the queue that claim to make individual modules work, but I dun

Re: [HACKERS] more dirmod CYGWIN

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Well, glad we are on to real Cygwin issues at least. I know I had probably broken Cygwin with all the Win32 changes. I actually thought it would be worse. Glad you were able to help us. On the /contrib issue, I am not sure we even have Mingw compiling contrib. What error are you seeing? If I

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > > Reini Urban wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian schrieb: > > > >> Peter Eisentraut wrote: > >> > >>> Bruce Momjian wrote: > >>> > There are alot of windows.h includes: > >>> > >>> > >>> ... and most of them are redundant because it is already included > >>> via c.h. > >>

Re: [HACKERS] Update on Supporting Encryption in Postgresql

2004-09-10 Thread Murat Kantarcioglu
It is really hard to describe all the project in few e-mails. Obviously, we will not try to run entire database software in that secure hardware. Also memory limitations are not important. For example, please check the research on "oblivious RAM" to see even small memory on such hardware can be l

Re: [HACKERS] Update on Supporting Encryption in Postgresql

2004-09-10 Thread Murat Kantarcioglu
Our basic claim is to be able to do most of the encryption while we are reading the page. That is the reason I need the threads. Any suggestion about the threads are welcome. Thanks. Murat Alvaro Herrera wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 11:

Re: [HACKERS] Update on Supporting Encryption in Postgresql

2004-09-10 Thread Tom Lane
Murat Kantarcioglu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This piece will be a part of a bigger design and the problems > mentioned are very real. In the future, our goal is to design a database > system where the processing is done in a "secure coprocessor"(i.e no one > will be able to see what is inside)

Re: [HACKERS] Making AFTER triggers act properly in PL functions

2004-09-10 Thread Tom Lane
Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Tom Lane wrote: >> Yeah, I had come to the same conclusion after more thought. But we >> could certainly aggregate all the similar events generated by a single >> query into a common status structure. > Definately. The ~20 byte/row

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Reini Urban wrote: Bruce Momjian schrieb: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: There are alot of windows.h includes: ... and most of them are redundant because it is already included via c.h. Right, but we only include windows.h in Mingw. Does Cygwin need it? Not really, but it will b

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Reini Urban
Bruce Momjian schrieb: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: There are alot of windows.h includes: ... and most of them are redundant because it is already included via c.h. Right, but we only include windows.h in Mingw. Does Cygwin need it? Not really, but it will be lot of new work, whic

Re: [HACKERS] more dirmod CYGWIN

2004-09-10 Thread Reini Urban
Bruce Momjian schrieb: I have applied all parts of your patch now. Thanks. Core builds and works fine now. (plperl IPC problems aside) But there's are still some more minor SHLIB glitches, which only affects contrib, because -lpgport is missing for various dll's. SHLIB_LINK doesn't contain the libs

Re: [HACKERS] Update on Supporting Encryption in Postgresql

2004-09-10 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 11:52:26AM -0500, Murat Kantarcioglu wrote: > Can you suggest me a solution to how to do > this on Postgresql backend? > > I am asssuming that somewhere in the code, you are calling a function like > getPage(Page_id) > to retrieve the page(I am trying to change backen

[HACKERS] Update on Supporting Encryption in Postgresql

2004-09-10 Thread Murat Kantarcioglu
Thanks for the comments. This piece will be a part of a bigger design and the problems mentioned are very real. In the future, our goal is to design a database system where the processing is done in a "secure coprocessor"(i.e no one will be able to see what is inside) and the small code inside the

Re: [HACKERS] row wise comparison broken

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Added to TODO: * Make row-wise comparisons work per SQL spec --- Tom Lane wrote: > "Merlin Moncure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2004-07/msg00218.php > > > Still

Re: [HACKERS] more dirmod CYGWIN

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
I have applied all parts of your patch now. --- Reini Urban wrote: > Reini Urban schrieb: > > [BTW: there's no need to cc all, I'm subscribed to most lists] > > Reini Urban schrieb: > >> Bruce Momjian schrieb: > >>> Andrew D

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > There are alot of windows.h includes: > > ... and most of them are redundant because it is already included via > c.h. Right, but we only include windows.h in Mingw. Does Cygwin need it? -- Bruce Momjian| http://can

Re: [HACKERS] Making AFTER triggers act properly in PL functions

2004-09-10 Thread Tom Lane
Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Tom Lane wrote: >> It wouldn't quite work to use just transaction ID as the marker, since >> the inner SET CONSTRAINTS is very possibly done without using a >> subtransaction. But command ID or query nesting level or some such >> woul

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian wrote: > There are alot of windows.h includes: ... and most of them are redundant because it is already included via c.h. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > OK, I am wrong above. Coding assumes WIN32 is only for port named > > WIN32, which is mingw, and for BCC and VCC. I was not aware Cygwin > > defined it at all. Are we sure it does in a header file? > > The problem is that some pieces of Cygw

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian wrote: > OK, I am wrong above. Coding assumes WIN32 is only for port named > WIN32, which is mingw, and for BCC and VCC. I was not aware Cygwin > defined it at all. Are we sure it does in a header file? The problem is that some pieces of Cygwin code include windows.h, which it s

Re: [HACKERS] Failed assertion, CVS head

2004-09-10 Thread Grant Finnemore
Ok, will do. Thanks. Tom Lane wrote: Grant Finnemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I'm afraid that I did not get a core dump. Sorry. My normal configure includes both debug and cassert - is there anything else I should set to ensure core dumps are generated? Check "ulimit -c" in the postmaster's env

Re: [HACKERS] row wise comparison broken

2004-09-10 Thread Tom Lane
"Merlin Moncure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2004-07/msg00218.php > Still, I think the current behavior is wrong...and is exactly the kind > of trick question that a sql compliance benchmark might ask. It undoubtedly is wrong. But it has been wr

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, change made. Thanks. --- > Most of the ~300 cases are ok for CYGWIN. And probably for MINGW also. > But I don't do MINGW countertests. I assume you do :) > > Just palloc misses some pending fixes for CYGWIN. cvs head d

Re: [HACKERS] Failed assertion, CVS head

2004-09-10 Thread Tom Lane
Grant Finnemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm afraid that I did not get a core dump. Sorry. > My normal configure includes both debug and cassert - is there anything > else I should set to ensure core dumps are generated? Check "ulimit -c" in the postmaster's environment. Personally I always

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
pgman wrote: > Andrew Dunstan wrote: > > >>I think Bruce was mostly trying to make all the similar tests look > > >>alike. Also I agree that "if a && !b" is clearer than "if !b && a"; > > >>the latter requires a bit more thought to parse the extent of the ! > > >>operator... > > >> > > >> > >

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > >I agree that this is a good idea, partly because I do not care for the > >assumption that MINGW is the only compilation environment we'll ever > >support for the Windows-native port. > > > >I'm not in a position to work out or test the required changes, but I'll > >be happy

Re: [HACKERS] Failed assertion, CVS head

2004-09-10 Thread Grant Finnemore
I'm afraid that I did not get a core dump. Sorry. My normal configure includes both debug and cassert - is there anything else I should set to ensure core dumps are generated? Regards, Grant Tom Lane wrote: Grant Finnemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TRAP: FailedAssertion("!(((ntp)->t_data)->t_info

Re: [HACKERS] row wise comparison broken

2004-09-10 Thread Merlin Moncure
> Yes, I found the following thread started by you in the > pgsql-performance list: > > Subject: [PERFORM] best way to fetch next/prev record based on index > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 06:18:43 -0700 > > > there were some concerns about backwards compatibility. > > IMO 8.0 is a good chance to fix i

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bottom line - this is something of a mess. If we can make sure Cygwin isn't broken, we can probably live with what have for now. Personally, I would have configure work out something cleaner, like, say, defining WINDOWS_ALL for both

Re: [HACKERS] Failed assertion, CVS head

2004-09-10 Thread Tom Lane
Grant Finnemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > TRAP: FailedAssertion("!(((ntp)->t_data)->t_infomask & 0x0010)", File: > "catcache.c", Line: 1728) This seems moderately impossible :-(. Did you get a core dump? If so please provide a stack backtrace. regards, tom lane ---

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bottom line - this is something of a mess. If we can make sure Cygwin > isn't broken, we can probably live with what have for now. Personally, I > would have configure work out something cleaner, like, say, defining > WINDOWS_ALL for both Windows nati

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD wrote: > > > > Personally I don't think that any rename()-usleep loop is necessary. > > > I'll check the archives. > > > > I agree the rename loop seems unnecessary. I kept it in case we hadn't > > dealt with all the failure places. Should we remove them now or wait >

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Reini Urban wrote: Andrew Dunstan schrieb: We had lots of Cygwin-specific defines in there already so Win32 just means both Mingw and Cygwin. You will see only a few cases where we want Mingw and not Cygwin, but in those case we often also want MSVC and Borland, so it really is WIN32 && ! __CYGW

Re: [HACKERS] more dirmod CYGWIN

2004-09-10 Thread Reini Urban
Reini Urban schrieb: [BTW: there's no need to cc all, I'm subscribed to most lists] Reini Urban schrieb: Bruce Momjian schrieb: Andrew Dunstan wrote: Reini Urban wrote: FYI: WIN32 is also defined because is included. (/usr/incluse/w32api/windef.h) If you want this or that, do proper nesting, and

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Reini Urban
Andrew Dunstan schrieb: Bruce Momjian wrote: Andrew Dunstan wrote: I'm not sure exactly what Bruce checked, so I just spent a few cycles making sure that we did not inadvertantly pick up a define of WIN32 from windows.h anywhere else. I *think* we are OK on that. However, ISTM this is a foot jus

Re: [HACKERS] psql questions: SQL, progname, copyright dates

2004-09-10 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Robert Treat wrote: Ugh. If I want to see the syntax of my functions, I'd be forced to use the \df-+ syntax, and I'd argue people spend far more time wanting to see \df+ output on their own functions than they ever do on system functions. +1. I suspect Tom's use is pretty atypical. If I wan

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Bruce Momjian wrote: Andrew Dunstan wrote: I'm not sure exactly what Bruce checked, so I just spent a few cycles making sure that we did not inadvertantly pick up a define of WIN32 from windows.h anywhere else. I *think* we are OK on that. However, ISTM this is a foot just waiting to be shot

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD
> > Personally I don't think that any rename()-usleep loop is necessary. > > I'll check the archives. > > I agree the rename loop seems unnecessary. I kept it in case we hadn't > dealt with all the failure places. Should we remove them now or wait > for 8.1? Seems we should keep them in and se

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Reini Urban
Bruce Momjian schrieb: Reini Urban wrote: Bruce Momjian schrieb: OK, care to submit a patch. As I remember the fix for rename/unlink also includes how the file is opened with flags. Anyway, we spent a lot of time on this so you will have to go back in the archvies to find it and determine how it

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Reini Urban wrote: > Bruce Momjian schrieb: > > OK, care to submit a patch. As I remember the fix for rename/unlink > > also includes how the file is opened with flags. Anyway, we spent a lot > > of time on this so you will have to go back in the archvies to find it > > and determine how it can b

[HACKERS] more dirmod CYGWIN (was: APR 1.0 released)

2004-09-10 Thread Reini Urban
[BTW: there's no need to cc all, I'm subscribed to most lists] Reini Urban schrieb: Bruce Momjian schrieb: Andrew Dunstan wrote: Reini Urban wrote: FYI: WIN32 is also defined because is included. (/usr/incluse/w32api/windef.h) If you want this or that, do proper nesting, and use #else. Ugh, yes.

Re: [HACKERS] Failed assertion, CVS head

2004-09-10 Thread Grant Finnemore
It's happened again, and in both cases seems to be on a call to VACUUM FULL Grant Finnemore wrote: Hi, I am using a version of PostgreSQL compiled from a CVS update of yesterday, and compiled with make clean all make install One client connection to the database doing routine and low volume po

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, moved and comment documents its location. --- Reini Urban wrote: > Bruce Momjian schrieb: > > Andrew Dunstan wrote: > >>Reini Urban wrote: > >>>FYI: WIN32 is also defined because is included. > >>>(/usr/incluse/w32api/

Re: [HACKERS] psql questions: SQL, progname, copyright dates

2004-09-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD wrote: > > > I think adding 'S' to \df confuses more than it helps. > > Why that? Imho it would be consistent. I thought it was strange to have alphabetic modifiers but I seem to be the only one who is worried about it so forget my objection. -- Bruce Momjian

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Reini Urban
Bruce Momjian schrieb: Andrew Dunstan wrote: Reini Urban wrote: FYI: WIN32 is also defined because is included. (/usr/incluse/w32api/windef.h) If you want this or that, do proper nesting, and use #else. Ugh, yes. A little experimentation shows that __WIN32__ is defined for MinGW only, but WIN3

[HACKERS] Failed assertion, CVS head

2004-09-10 Thread Grant Finnemore
Hi, I am using a version of PostgreSQL compiled from a CVS update of yesterday, and compiled with make clean all make install One client connection to the database doing routine and low volume population scripts (using schemas) After several normal runs of the population script, a run caused th

Re: [HACKERS] psql questions: SQL, progname, copyright dates

2004-09-10 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Robert Treat wrote: Ugh. If I want to see the syntax of my functions, I'd be forced to use the \df-+ syntax, and I'd argue people spend far more time wanting to see \df+ output on their own functions than they ever do on system functions. imho the argument against \dfS is pretty weak. Letters

Re: [HACKERS] APR 1.0 released

2004-09-10 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD
> > Well, it's easily changed, if all that's needed is a search-and-replace. > > Suggestions for a better name? > > MINGW32 I think that is a bad idea. That symbol sure suggests, that you are using mingw. Are you expecting someone who creates a VisualStudio project to define MINGW32 ? Andreas

Re: [HACKERS] psql questions: SQL, progname, copyright dates

2004-09-10 Thread Zeugswetter Andreas SB SD
> I think adding 'S' to \df confuses more than it helps. Why that? Imho it would be consistent. Andreas ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not mat