On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 09:19:17PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 04:32:46PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 04:23:21PM -0400, Isaac Morland wrote:
> > > Will there be a comprehensive list somewhere? Even if it just lists the
> > > views,
> > > gives
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 04:32:46PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 04:23:21PM -0400, Isaac Morland wrote:
> > Will there be a comprehensive list somewhere? Even if it just lists the
> > views,
> > gives maybe a one-sentence description, and links to the relevant chapter, I
>
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 04:23:21PM -0400, Isaac Morland wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 at 16:08, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 01:41:44PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > I am going to look at moving system views that make sense into the
> > chapters where their conten
On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 at 16:08, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 01:41:44PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > I am going to look at moving system views that make sense into the
> > chapters where their contents are mentioned. I don't think having a
> > central list of views is really h
On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 01:41:44PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I am going to look at moving system views that make sense into the
> chapters where their contents are mentioned. I don't think having a
> central list of views is really helping us because we expect the views
> to be used in ways th
On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 09:22:24PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian writes:
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 10:53:17AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> >> Maybe this whole notion that "system views" is one thing is not suitable.
>
> > Are you thinking we should just call the chapter "System Cat
On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 1:22 PM Tom Lane wrote:
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> Bruce Momjian writes:
> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 10:53:17AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> >> Maybe this whole notion that "system views" is one thing is not suitable.
>
> > Are you thinking we should just call the chapter "System Catalogs an
Bruce Momjian writes:
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 10:53:17AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> Maybe this whole notion that "system views" is one thing is not suitable.
> Are you thinking we should just call the chapter "System Catalogs and
> Views" and just place them alphabetically in a single ch
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 10:53:17AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Now that I see the result, I don't think this is really the right
> improvement yet.
>
> The new System Views chapter lists views that are effectively quasi-system
> catalogs, such as pg_shadow or pg_replication_origin_status -- t
On 14.07.22 22:07, Bruce Momjian wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 05:16:41PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 08:56:01PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On 08.07.22 18:07, Bruce Momjian wrote:
so I guess we can backpatch this with no issues.
It inserts a new chapter, which
On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 05:16:41PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 08:56:01PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > On 08.07.22 18:07, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > so I guess we can backpatch this with no issues.
> >
> > It inserts a new chapter, which would renumber all other cha
Bruce Momjian writes:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 08:56:36PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> views.sgml is a pretty generic name for a chapter that just contains system
>> views.
> Yes, I struggled with that. What made me choose "views" is that the
> current name was catalogs.sgml, not syscatalo
On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 08:56:36PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 08.07.22 21:32, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 12:07:45PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 11:49:47AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > > > Bruce Momjian writes:
> > > > > Agreed. I don't wan
On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 08:56:01PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 08.07.22 18:07, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > so I guess we can backpatch this with no issues.
>
> It inserts a new chapter, which would renumber all other chapters. That's a
> pretty big change to backpatch. I'm against that.
Oka
On 08.07.22 21:32, Bruce Momjian wrote:
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 12:07:45PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 11:49:47AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian writes:
Agreed. I don't want to break links into the documentation in final
released versions, so head and PG15 seem w
On 08.07.22 18:07, Bruce Momjian wrote:
so I guess we can backpatch this with no issues.
It inserts a new chapter, which would renumber all other chapters.
That's a pretty big change to backpatch. I'm against that.
On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 5:32 AM Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
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> Attached is a patch to accomplish this. Its output can be seen here:
>
> https://momjian.us/tmp/pgsql/internals.html
>
That output looks good to me.
--
Kind Regards,
Peter Smith.
Fujitsu Australia
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 12:07:45PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 11:49:47AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian writes:
> > > Agreed. I don't want to break links into the documentation in final
> > > released versions, so head and PG15 seem wise.
> >
> > I would not e
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 11:49:47AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian writes:
> > Agreed. I don't want to break links into the documentation in final
> > released versions, so head and PG15 seem wise.
>
> I would not expect this to change the doc URLs for any individual
> catalogs or views --
Bruce Momjian writes:
> Agreed. I don't want to break links into the documentation in final
> released versions, so head and PG15 seem wise.
I would not expect this to change the doc URLs for any individual
catalogs or views --- if it does, I won't be happy.
regards, tom
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 09:21:13AM +1000, Peter Smith wrote:
> > My only question is whether we apply this to head, head & PG 15, or all
> > branches? I think the URLs will change with this adjustment so we might
> > want to do only head & PG 15.
>
> AFAIK the chapter has been structured like thi
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:17 AM Bruce Momjian wrote:
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> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 09:29:13AM +1000, Peter Smith wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 10:59 AM Peter Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 11:50 PM Tom Lane wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Peter Eisentraut writes:
> > > > > Initially,
On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 09:29:13AM +1000, Peter Smith wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 10:59 AM Peter Smith wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 11:50 PM Tom Lane wrote:
> > >
> > > Peter Eisentraut writes:
> > > > Initially, that chapter did not document any system views.
> > >
> > > Maybe we
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