Greetings,
* Andres Freund (and...@anarazel.de) wrote:
> On 2019-05-03 23:08:44 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > As mentioned though, it's likely to be a
> > quite rare thing to run into, so you'd have to be extra unlucky to even
> > hit this case and perhaps the extra code complication just isn't
Hi,
On 2019-05-03 23:08:44 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> This makes me think we should both order it and combine it into one
> message... but that'd then be pretty difficult to deal with,
> potentially, from a translation standpoint and just from a "wow, that's
> a huge log message", which is kind
Em sex, 3 de mai de 2019 às 17:27, Robert Haas escreveu:
>
> HINT: Commit or roll back old prepared transactions, drop stale
> replication slots, or kill long-running sessions.
> Ensure that autovacuum is progressing, or run a manual database-wide VACUUM.
>
First of all, +1 for this patch. But af
Greetings,
* Andres Freund (and...@anarazel.de) wrote:
> On 2019-05-03 22:41:11 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > I suppose it is a pretty big change in the base autovacuum launcher to
> > be something that's run per database instead and then deal with the
> > coordination between the two... but I
Hi,
On 2019-05-03 22:41:11 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> I suppose it is a pretty big change in the base autovacuum launcher to
> be something that's run per database instead and then deal with the
> coordination between the two... but I can't help but feel like it
> wouldn't be that much *work*.
Greetings,
* Andres Freund (and...@anarazel.de) wrote:
> On 2019-05-03 22:03:18 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > * Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > I am not sure exactly how to fix this,
> > > because the calculation we use to determine the XID that can be used
> > > to vacuum a spe
Hi,
On 2019-05-03 22:03:18 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > I am not sure exactly how to fix this,
> > because the calculation we use to determine the XID that can be used
> > to vacuum a specific table is pretty complex; how can the postmaster
> > kno
Hi,
On 2019-05-03 22:11:08 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Andres Freund (and...@anarazel.de) wrote:
> > I don't think we necessarily need a new WAL record for what I'm
> > describing above (as XLOG_SMGR_TRUNCATE already carries information
> > about which forks are truncated, we could just have i
Greetings,
* Andres Freund (and...@anarazel.de) wrote:
> I don't think we necessarily need a new WAL record for what I'm
> describing above (as XLOG_SMGR_TRUNCATE already carries information
> about which forks are truncated, we could just have it acquire the
> exclusive lock), and I don't think w
Hi,
On 2019-05-03 21:36:24 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:45 PM Andres Freund wrote:
> > Part of my opposition to just disabling it when close to a wraparound,
> > is that it still allows to get close to wraparound because of truncation
> > issues.
>
> Sure ... it would def
Greetings,
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
> I am not sure exactly how to fix this,
> because the calculation we use to determine the XID that can be used
> to vacuum a specific table is pretty complex; how can the postmaster
> know whether it's going to be able to make any progress i
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:45 PM Andres Freund wrote:
> Part of my opposition to just disabling it when close to a wraparound,
> is that it still allows to get close to wraparound because of truncation
> issues.
Sure ... it would definitely be better if vacuum didn't consume XIDs
when it truncates.
Hi,
On 2019-05-03 18:42:35 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:47 PM Andres Freund wrote:
> > I'd actually say the proper fix would be to instead move the truncation
> > to *after* finishing updating relfrozenxid etc. If we truncate, the
> > additional cost of another in-place p
Robert Haas writes:
> I spent a significant chunk of today burning through roughly 2^31 XIDs
> just to see what would happen. ...
> 2. Once you get to the point where you start to emit errors when
> attempting to assign an XID, you can still run plain old VACUUM
> because it doesn't consume an XI
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:47 PM Andres Freund wrote:
> I'd actually say the proper fix would be to instead move the truncation
> to *after* finishing updating relfrozenxid etc. If we truncate, the
> additional cost of another in-place pg_class update, to update relpages,
> is basically insignifica
Hi,
On 2019-05-03 16:26:46 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> 2. Once you get to the point where you start to emit errors when
> attempting to assign an XID, you can still run plain old VACUUM
> because it doesn't consume an XID ... except that if it tries to
> truncate the relation, then it will take Ac
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