Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-24 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:15 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Clearly, for a few languages the current facilities are sufficient. > If we make the process easier, we're likely to have more translations. > Will there be people verifying the quality also? It seems to me that making the process easier ha

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-23 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tels wrote: > Last but not least I'd be able to help with the german translation, but I > have no clear idea how, or what the actual status is. Are German > translators actually needed? German, along with Russian and French, are pretty much the only translations kept fully up to date almost all t

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-23 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > That section is meant to say, if a translation ships in 10.0 with 81% > but then drops to 79% because some backpatching changes strings, we > won't drop it in 10.2. > > In the opposite case, it would be added to a minor release. Good to k

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-23 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 2/23/18 10:48, Robert Haas wrote: > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >> Thom Brown writes: >>> Something that isn't clear to me is, for a language that didn't meet >>> 80% translation for a component, if it does reach 80% after the major >>> version release, does it then get s

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-23 Thread Tels
On Thu, February 22, 2018 11:04 pm, Tom Lane wrote: > Alvaro Herrera writes: >> Please join pgsql-translat...@postgresql.org. > > What surprises me about this thread is that apparently the sad state > of the v10 translations wasn't already discussed on that list? The list is more or less dead -

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-23 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > Thom Brown writes: >> Something that isn't clear to me is, for a language that didn't meet >> 80% translation for a component, if it does reach 80% after the major >> version release, does it then get shipped in a minor release, or is >> out of

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-23 Thread Tom Lane
Thom Brown writes: > Something that isn't clear to me is, for a language that didn't meet > 80% translation for a component, if it does reach 80% after the major > version release, does it then get shipped in a minor release, or is > out of that version completely until the next major version? No

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-23 Thread Thom Brown
On 23 February 2018 at 04:04, Tom Lane wrote: > Alvaro Herrera writes: >> Please join pgsql-translat...@postgresql.org. > > What surprises me about this thread is that apparently the sad state > of the v10 translations wasn't already discussed on that list? > > I have no objection to calling for

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera writes: > Please join pgsql-translat...@postgresql.org. What surprises me about this thread is that apparently the sad state of the v10 translations wasn't already discussed on that list? I have no objection to calling for more translation volunteers on this list --- in fact, prob

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Craig Ringer
On 23 February 2018 at 09:50, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > > I was wondering a bit about how translations are maintained. Experience > > with another highly internationalised project years ago showed that many > > people who are willing to volunteer as translators are NOT willing to > > interact with gi

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 09:51:02AM +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: >> I'm not working on message translations. Hotta-san is actively >> working on the translations here: >> >> https://github.com/hotta/pg-nls-ja > > If you need help here, feel free to ping me. I have done translation to > Japanese

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> Michael Paquier wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 09:51:02AM +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: >> > I'm not working on message translations. Hotta-san is actively >> > working on the translations here: >> > >> > https://github.com/hotta/pg-nls-ja >> >> If you need help here, feel free to ping me. I

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Michael Paquier
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:45:11PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > How many repositories do we need, though? There is already one in > git.postgresql.org -- see https://babel.postgresql.org/ Centralizing things into postgresql.org is nice for the long term. > Please join pgsql-translat...@postgre

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Michael Paquier wrote: > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 09:51:02AM +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > > I'm not working on message translations. Hotta-san is actively > > working on the translations here: > > > > https://github.com/hotta/pg-nls-ja > > If you need help here, feel free to ping me. I have done

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Michael Paquier
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 09:51:02AM +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > I'm not working on message translations. Hotta-san is actively > working on the translations here: > > https://github.com/hotta/pg-nls-ja If you need help here, feel free to ping me. I have done translation to Japanese for other th

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> I was wondering a bit about how translations are maintained. Experience > with another highly internationalised project years ago showed that many > people who are willing to volunteer as translators are NOT willing to > interact with git (or at the time, svn) and the other tools many of us take

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Craig Ringer
On 23 February 2018 at 08:51, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > > I also noticed the same thing few days ago, by the fact that RPM > > release of PG10 doesn't contain psql translation. > > > > @10 > ja | pg_basebackup,pg_resetxlog, > plpython,pltcl,postgres,psql > > @9.4> ja | pg_basebackup,pg_

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> I also noticed the same thing few days ago, by the fact that RPM > release of PG10 doesn't contain psql translation. > > @10 > ja | pg_basebackup,pg_resetxlog,plpython,pltcl,postgres,psql > @9.4> ja | pg_basebackup,pg_resetxlog > > I'm not sure how the translations are maintained

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Kyotaro HORIGUCHI
# my clone repository has been corrupted...sigh. At Thu, 22 Feb 2018 18:32:15 -0500, Robert Haas wrote in > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: > >> I have found that Japanese language support for the database server > >> has been dropped for 10. This is because it fell below

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
>> Was that mentioned in the 10.0 release note? I didn't know that. > > I don't think we ever mention translations that are added or dropped > in minor release notes. I think it would better for users to be noticed that in the release notes because the message translations are apparently visible

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: >> I have found that Japanese language support for the database server >> has been dropped for 10. This is because it fell below the 80% of >> strings translated requirement, so it was shipped without Japanese. > > Was that mentioned in the 10.

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
> I have found that Japanese language support for the database server > has been dropped for 10. This is because it fell below the 80% of > strings translated requirement, so it was shipped without Japanese. Was that mentioned in the 10.0 release note? I didn't know that. Best regards, -- Tatsuo

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Ioseph Kim
Hi, I’m translating to Korean since 10 years over. I think this issue should be left to the local community. It may be omitted in some versions, or added in some versions. because, it depends on volunteering. Let It Be! Regards Ioseph. On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 05:29:11PM +, Thom Brown wrote:

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Thom Brown
On 22 February 2018 at 17:24, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 6:20 PM, Thom Brown wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have found that Japanese language support for the database server >> has been dropped for 10. This is because it fell below the 80% of >> strings translated requirement, so

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 6:20 PM, Thom Brown wrote: > Hi, > > I have found that Japanese language support for the database server > has been dropped for 10. This is because it fell below the 80% of > strings translated requirement, so it was shipped without Japanese. > This isn't true of all comp

Re: Translations contributions urgently needed

2018-02-22 Thread Pavel Stehule
2018-02-22 18:20 GMT+01:00 Thom Brown : > Hi, > > I have found that Japanese language support for the database server > has been dropped for 10. This is because it fell below the 80% of > strings translated requirement, so it was shipped without Japanese. > This isn't true of all components, but