I wrote:
> I forgot to report back, but yesterday I spent time unsuccessfully
> trying to reproduce the problem with macOS client and NFS server
> using btrfs (a Synology NAS running some no-name version of Linux).
Also, I *can* reproduce it using the same NFS server and a FreeBSD
14.2 client. At
Thomas Munro writes:
> I now suspect this specific readdir() problem is in FreeBSD's NFS
> client. See below. There have also been reports of missed files from
> (IIRC) Linux clients without much analysis, but that doesn't seem too
> actionable from here unless someone can come up with a repro o
On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 6:39 PM Tom Lane wrote:
> ISTM we used to disclaim responsibility for data integrity if you
> try to put PGDATA on NFS. I looked at the current wording about
> NFS in runtime.sgml and was frankly shocked at how optimistic it is.
> Shouldn't we be saying something closer to
Thomas Munro writes:
> NFS is at least supposed to tell the client that its cookie has been
> invalidated with a cookie-invalidation-cookie called cookieverf. But
> there isn't any specified way to recover. FreeBSD's client looks like
> it might try to, but I'm not sure if that Linux's server ev
On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 1:20 PM Kenneth Marshall wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 06:58:14PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Larry Rosenman writes:
> > > On 12/31/2024 5:37 pm, Tom Lane wrote:
> > >> Do you know what its underlying file system is?
> >
> > > btrfs
> Maybe there are some btrfs or nfs op
Larry Rosenman writes:
> On 12/31/2024 5:37 pm, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Do you know what its underlying file system is?
> btrfs
OK. My test was with XFS underneath the NFS service.
regards, tom lane
On 12/31/2024 5:37 pm, Tom Lane wrote:
Larry Rosenman writes:
On 12/31/2024 5:24 pm, Thomas Munro wrote:
The implementation-specific cookie scheme for encoding a sort of
cursor position across readdir() calls has various different problems
on various different OSes, NFS implementations and und
Larry Rosenman writes:
> On 12/31/2024 5:24 pm, Thomas Munro wrote:
>> The implementation-specific cookie scheme for encoding a sort of
>> cursor position across readdir() calls has various different problems
>> on various different OSes, NFS implementations and underlying local
>> file systems (I
On 12/31/2024 5:24 pm, Thomas Munro wrote:
On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 11:44 AM Tom Lane wrote:
Larry Rosenman writes:
> On 12/31/2024 12:22 pm, Larry Rosenman wrote:
>> When I try to drop a database, PostgreSQL leaves files in the directory
>> and does not even try to delete them.
>> PostgreSQL 16
On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 11:44 AM Tom Lane wrote:
> Larry Rosenman writes:
> > On 12/31/2024 12:22 pm, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> >> When I try to drop a database, PostgreSQL leaves files in the directory
> >> and does not even try to delete them.
> >> PostgreSQL 16.6, FreeBSD 14.2, PGDATA mounted NFS
Larry Rosenman writes:
> On 12/31/2024 12:22 pm, Larry Rosenman wrote:
>> When I try to drop a database, PostgreSQL leaves files in the directory
>> and does not even try to delete them.
>> PostgreSQL 16.6, FreeBSD 14.2, PGDATA mounted NFS from UGreen NAS.
FWIW, I couldn't reproduce such a probl
On 12/31/2024 12:22 pm, Larry Rosenman wrote:
When I try to drop a database, PostgreSQL leaves files in the directory
and does not even try to delete them.
PostgreSQL 16.6, FreeBSD 14.2, PGDATA mounted NFS from UGreen NAS.
Truss of the create/delete attached.
It does NOT seem to happen PG < 1
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