Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2022-03-30 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
> On 28 Mar 2022, at 23:51, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > Barring objections I will go ahead and push this for 15. It's the minimal > change but it might still help someone new to PostgreSQL who gets confused on > the choice of naming/wording. Hearing no objections I went ahead with this now. --

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2022-03-28 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
> On 25 Mar 2022, at 22:01, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: >> On 25 Mar 2022, at 20:58, Robert Haas wrote: >> However, if we're not ready/willing to make a bigger change, then doing as >> you >> have proposed here seems fine to me. > > Thanks for review! Trying out again just now the patch still ap

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2022-03-25 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
> On 25 Mar 2022, at 20:58, Robert Haas wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 8:47 AM Daniel Gustafsson wrote: >> Since the approach taken wasn't to anyones liking, attached is a v4 (partly >> extracted from the previous patch) which only adds notes that SSL is used >> interchangeably with TLS in o

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2022-03-25 Thread Robert Haas
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 8:47 AM Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > Since the approach taken wasn't to anyones liking, attached is a v4 (partly > extracted from the previous patch) which only adds notes that SSL is used > interchangeably with TLS in our documentation and configuration. I have actually bee

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-09-15 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
Since the approach taken wasn't to anyones liking, attached is a v4 (partly extracted from the previous patch) which only adds notes that SSL is used interchangeably with TLS in our documentation and configuration. -- Daniel Gustafsson https://vmware.com/ v4-0001-doc-Clarify-that-

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-07-01 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
> On 1 Jul 2021, at 22:40, Peter Eisentraut > wrote: > > On 30.06.21 22:46, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: >> I think consistency is the interesting aspect here. We already have a mix of >> SSL, TLS and SSL/TLS (although heavily skewed towards SSL) so we should >> settle >> on one and stick to it.

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-07-01 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 30.06.21 22:46, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: I think consistency is the interesting aspect here. We already have a mix of SSL, TLS and SSL/TLS (although heavily skewed towards SSL) so we should settle on one and stick to it. The arguments in the NSS thread which led to this pointed to SSL/TLS.

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-07-01 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 30.06.21 20:43, Jacob Champion wrote: On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 20:20 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: I note that popular places such as the Apache and nginx SSL/TLS modules just use SSL in their documentation, and they are probably under much more scrutiny in this area. For Apache, that's not s

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-07-01 Thread Euler Taveira
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > > On 30 Jun 2021, at 20:20, Peter Eisentraut > > wrote: > > > I am not in favor of this direction. I think it just adds tediousness and > > doesn't really help anyone. If we are worried about correct terminology, > > then we should

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-06-30 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
> On 30 Jun 2021, at 20:20, Peter Eisentraut > wrote: > I am not in favor of this direction. I think it just adds tediousness and > doesn't really help anyone. If we are worried about correct terminology, > then we should just change everything to TLS. I actually think SSL/TLS has won the d

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-06-30 Thread Jacob Champion
On Wed, 2021-06-30 at 20:20 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > I note that popular places such as the Apache and nginx SSL/TLS modules > just use SSL in their documentation, and they are probably under much > more scrutiny in this area. For Apache, that's not strictly true [1, 2]. mod_ssl and its

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-06-30 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 15.06.21 15:59, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: Looking at the docs it turns out that we have a mix of SSL (with one ssl), SSL/TLS and TLS for referring to the same thing. The attached changes the documentation to consistently use SSL/TLS when referring to an encrypted connection using a TLS protoco

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-06-24 Thread Michael Paquier
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 01:53:47PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > The attached v3 does it this way. Thanks. Mostly what was on message upthread. Applied this one. > Yes, there are a few but not too many. Whenever the protocol is refererred to > and not the concept of an encrypted connection

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-06-24 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
> On 22 Jun 2021, at 06:37, Michael Paquier wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 01:23:56PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: >> On 18 Jun 2021, at 07:37, Michael Paquier wrote: >>> It looks inconsistent to me to point to the libpq documentation to get >>> the details about SNI. Wouldn't is be bett

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-06-21 Thread Michael Paquier
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 01:23:56PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > On 18 Jun 2021, at 07:37, Michael Paquier wrote: >> It looks inconsistent to me to point to the libpq documentation to get >> the details about SNI. Wouldn't is be better to have an item in the >> glossary that refers to the bit

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-06-21 Thread Daniel Gustafsson
> On 18 Jun 2021, at 07:37, Michael Paquier wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 03:59:18PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: >> While in there I added IMO missing items to the glossary and acronyms >> sections >> as well as fixed up markup around OpenSSL. >> >> This only deals with docs, but if th

Re: SSL/TLS instead of SSL in docs

2021-06-17 Thread Michael Paquier
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 03:59:18PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > While in there I added IMO missing items to the glossary and acronyms sections > as well as fixed up markup around OpenSSL. > > This only deals with docs, but if this is deemed interesting then userfacing > messages in the code s