On 06.03.24 22:54, Thomas Munro wrote:
Rebased. I had intended to try to get this into v17, but a couple of
unresolved problems came up while rebasing over the new incremental
backup stuff. You snooze, you lose. Hopefully we can sort these out
in time for the next commitfest:
* should pg_comb
Rebased. I had intended to try to get this into v17, but a couple of
unresolved problems came up while rebasing over the new incremental
backup stuff. You snooze, you lose. Hopefully we can sort these out
in time for the next commitfest:
* should pg_combinebasebackup read the control file to fe
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 8:53 PM David Steele wrote:
> + if (strcmp(endptr, "kB") == 0)
>
> Why kB here instead of KB to match MB, GB, TB below?
Those are SI prefixes[1], and we use kB elsewhere too. ("K" was used
for kelvins, so they went with "k" for kilo. Obviously these aren't
On 5/28/23 08:48, Thomas Munro wrote:
Alright, since I had some time to kill in an airport, here is a
starter patch for initdb --rel-segsize.
I've gone through this patch and it looks pretty good to me. A few things:
+* rel_setment_size, we will truncate the K+1st se
On 28.05.23 02:48, Thomas Munro wrote:
Another potential option name would be --segsize, if we think we're
going to use this for temp files too eventually.
Maybe it's not so beautiful to have that global variable
rel_segment_size (which replaces REL_SEGSIZE everywhere). Another
idea would be to
On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 2:48 AM Thomas Munro wrote:
> (you'd need over 2 billion
> directories ...
directory *entries* (segment files), I meant to write there.
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 1:08 PM Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Peter Eisentraut (peter.eisentr...@enterprisedb.com) wrote:
> > On 24.05.23 02:34, Thomas Munro wrote:
> > > * pg_upgrade would convert if source and target don't match
> >
> > This would be good, but it could also be an optional or later fe
Greetings,
* Peter Eisentraut (peter.eisentr...@enterprisedb.com) wrote:
> On 24.05.23 02:34, Thomas Munro wrote:
> > Thanks all for the feedback. It was a nice idea and it *almost*
> > works, but it seems like we just can't drop segmented mode. And the
> > automatic transition schemes I showed
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 2:18 AM Peter Eisentraut
wrote:
> > What I'm hearing is that something simple like this might be more
> > acceptable:
> >
> > * initdb --rel-segsize (cf --wal-segsize), default unchanged
>
> makes sense
+1.
> > * pg_upgrade would convert if source and target don't match
On 24.05.23 02:34, Thomas Munro wrote:
Thanks all for the feedback. It was a nice idea and it *almost*
works, but it seems like we just can't drop segmented mode. And the
automatic transition schemes I showed don't make much sense without
that goal.
What I'm hearing is that something simple li
Thanks all for the feedback. It was a nice idea and it *almost*
works, but it seems like we just can't drop segmented mode. And the
automatic transition schemes I showed don't make much sense without
that goal.
What I'm hearing is that something simple like this might be more acceptable:
* init
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 9:53 AM Stephen Frost wrote:
> While I tend to agree that 1GB is too small, 1TB seems like it's
> possibly going to end up on the too big side of things, or at least,
> if we aren't getting rid of the segment code then it's possibly throwing
> away the benefits we have from
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 4:02 PM Thomas Munro wrote:
> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:41 AM MARK CALLAGHAN wrote:
> > Repeating what was mentioned on Twitter, because I had some experience
> with the topic. With fewer files per table there will be more contention on
> the per-inode mutex (which might
On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:01 AM Thomas Munro wrote:
> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:41 AM MARK CALLAGHAN wrote:
> > use XFS and O_DIRECT
As for direct I/O, we're only just getting started on that. We
currently can't produce more than one concurrent WAL write, and then
for relation data, we just go
On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:41 AM MARK CALLAGHAN wrote:
> Repeating what was mentioned on Twitter, because I had some experience with
> the topic. With fewer files per table there will be more contention on the
> per-inode mutex (which might now be the per-inode rwsem). I haven't read
> filesyste
Repeating what was mentioned on Twitter, because I had some experience with
the topic. With fewer files per table there will be more contention on the
per-inode mutex (which might now be the per-inode rwsem). I haven't read
filesystem source in a long time. Back in the day, and perhaps today, it
wa
Greetings,
* Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker (ilm...@ilmari.org) wrote:
> Thomas Munro writes:
> > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:16 AM Jim Mlodgenski wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:29 PM Thomas Munro wrote:
> >>> I am not aware of any modern/non-historic filesystem[2] that can't do
> >>> large files
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 7:38 PM Thomas Munro wrote:
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:16 AM Jim Mlodgenski wrote:
> > On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:29 PM Thomas Munro
> wrote:
> >> I am not aware of any modern/non-historic filesystem[2] that can't do
> >> large files with ease. Anyone know of anything to
Thomas Munro writes:
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:16 AM Jim Mlodgenski wrote:
>> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:29 PM Thomas Munro wrote:
>>> I am not aware of any modern/non-historic filesystem[2] that can't do
>>> large files with ease. Anyone know of anything to worry about on that
>>> front?
>>
>
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:16 AM Jim Mlodgenski wrote:
> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:29 PM Thomas Munro wrote:
>> I am not aware of any modern/non-historic filesystem[2] that can't do
>> large files with ease. Anyone know of anything to worry about on that
>> front?
>
> There is some trouble in the
On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:29 PM Thomas Munro wrote:
>
> I am not aware of any modern/non-historic filesystem[2] that can't do
> large files with ease. Anyone know of anything to worry about on that
> front?
There is some trouble in the ambiguity of what we mean by "modern" and
"large files". Th
Greetings,
* Corey Huinker (corey.huin...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 1:37 AM Thomas Munro wrote:
> > On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 5:21 PM Thomas Munro
> > wrote:
> > > rsync --link-dest
... rsync isn't really a safe tool to use for PG backups by itself
unless you're using it with arch
On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 1:37 AM Thomas Munro wrote:
> On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 5:21 PM Thomas Munro
> wrote:
> > rsync --link-dest
>
> I wonder if rsync will grow a mode that can use copy_file_range() to
> share blocks with a reference file (= previous backup). Something
> like --copy-range-dest.
On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 5:21 PM Thomas Munro wrote:
> rsync --link-dest
I wonder if rsync will grow a mode that can use copy_file_range() to
share blocks with a reference file (= previous backup). Something
like --copy-range-dest. That'd work for large-file relations
(assuming a file system that
On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 3:28 PM Pavel Stehule wrote:
> I like this patch - it can save some system sources - I am not sure how much,
> because bigger tables usually use partitioning usually.
Yeah, if you only use partitions of < 1GB it won't make a difference.
Larger partitions are not uncommon,
Hi
I like this patch - it can save some system sources - I am not sure how
much, because bigger tables usually use partitioning usually.
Important note - this feature breaks sharing files on the backup side - so
before disabling 1GB sized files, this issue should be solved.
Regards
Pavel
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