Hi David,
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 2:15 PM David Rowley wrote:
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> On Thu, 1 May 2025 at 17:35, Junwang Zhao wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 8:12 AM David Rowley wrote:
> > > It sounds like the aim is to fix the problem with autovacuum vacuuming
> > > the same table over and over and being
On Thu, 1 May 2025 at 17:35, Junwang Zhao wrote:
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> On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 8:12 AM David Rowley wrote:
> > It sounds like the aim is to fix the problem with autovacuum vacuuming
> > the same table over and over and being unable to remove enough dead
> > tuples due to something holding back the o
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 8:12 AM David Rowley wrote:
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> On Thu, 1 May 2025 at 03:29, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> > That being said, I am -1 for this proposal. Autovacuum parameters and
> > scheduling are already quite complicated, and making it nondeterministic
> > would add an additional layer of co
Hi Sami,
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 1:56 AM Sami Imseih wrote:
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> > Yes, it is masking the problem, but maybe a better way to think about it is
> > that it is delaying the
> > performance impact, allowing more time for a manual intervention of the
> > problematic table(s).
>
> I question how the u
On Thu, 1 May 2025 at 03:29, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> That being said, I am -1 for this proposal. Autovacuum parameters and
> scheduling are already quite complicated, and making it nondeterministic
> would add an additional layer of complexity (and may introduce its own
> problems). But more imp
On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 1:56 PM Sami Imseih wrote:
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> > Yes, it is masking the problem, but maybe a better way to think about it is
> > that it is delaying the
> > performance impact, allowing more time for a manual intervention of the
> > problematic table(s).
>
> I question how the user will
> Yes, it is masking the problem, but maybe a better way to think about it is
> that it is delaying the
> performance impact, allowing more time for a manual intervention of the
> problematic table(s).
I question how the user will gauge the success of setting the strategy
to "random"? They may m
On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 10:07 AM Junwang Zhao wrote:
> I ended up with adding a guc configuration that may support different
> vacuum
> strategies.
+1 to this: it's a good solution to a tricky problem. I would be a -1 if
this were not a GUC.
Yes, it is masking the problem, but maybe a better w
> - Spinning. Running repeatedly on the same table but not accomplishing
> anything useful.
> But more importantly, IMHO it masks the problems instead of
> solving them more directly, and it could mask future problems, too
To add more to Nathan's comment about masking future problems,
this will n
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 10:02:49PM +0800, Junwang Zhao wrote:
> After watching Robert's talk[1] on autovacuum and participating in the related
> workshop yesterday, it appears that people are inclined to use prioritization
> to address the issues highlighted in Robert's presentation. Here I list tw
Hi Nikita, wenhui,
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 11:16 PM Nikita Malakhov wrote:
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> Hi!
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> I agree it is a good idea to shift the table list. Although vacuuming larger
> tables first
> is a questionable approach because smaller ones could wait a long time to be
> vacuumed.
> It looks like the most
Hi!
I agree it is a good idea to shift the table list. Although vacuuming
larger tables first
is a questionable approach because smaller ones could wait a long time to
be vacuumed.
It looks like the most obvious and simple way is that the first table to be
vacuumed
should not be the first one from
Hi,I like your idea,It would be even better if the weights could be taken
according to the larger tables
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 at 22:03, Junwang Zhao wrote:
> Hi hackers,
>
> After watching Robert's talk[1] on autovacuum and participating in the
> related
> workshop yesterday, it appears that peop
Hi hackers,
After watching Robert's talk[1] on autovacuum and participating in the related
workshop yesterday, it appears that people are inclined to use prioritization
to address the issues highlighted in Robert's presentation. Here I list two
of the failure modes that were discussed.
- Spinning
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