Re: [GENERAL] ODBC query problem

2003-07-16 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:04:25PM -0500, Luis Maga?a wrote: > Thanks, > > yes, it's running solaris 8 on a SPARC with SCSI disk. Hmm. 64 bit? There've been plenty of bugs in the 64 bit libraries, AFAICT. We've even discovered some of 'em ourselves, and I got so leery that we still use a 32-b

[GENERAL] dump_all/restore times?

2003-07-16 Thread nolan
I'm testing a database against the 7.4 CVS, so I did a pg_dumpall and a restore on another system. The database has around 130 user tables which take up a bit under 15GB of disk space. The dump file was about 7GB. (That seems about right based on past experience, nobody ever said relational

Re: [GENERAL] Couple Postgres View Questions

2003-07-16 Thread Doug McNaught
"Brian Maguire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a couple questions about Postgres and Views. > > I am curious about what Postgres actually does in regards to views and > the internal steps that it takes. > > Are these the steps that it takes for each query that includes a view? > 1. Dynam

Re: [GENERAL] ODBC query problem

2003-07-16 Thread Maksim Likharev
It very much looks like a problem I had before do you have back trace, I will say for sure. -Original Message- From: Luis Magaña [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:12 AM To: Andrew Sullivan Cc: Postgresql General Mail List Subject: Re: [GENERAL] ODBC query problem

Re: [GENERAL] ODBC query problem

2003-07-16 Thread Luis Magaña
I've compiled postgresql in 32bit mode, although I'm using the --enable-integer-datetimes flag when configuring. I've already moved database to a diferent partition nad got the same results, I wonder, if it is a hardware problem, why can I access both tables individually with no problem at all ?.

Re: [GENERAL] ODBC query problem

2003-07-16 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 12:36:34PM -0500, Luis Maga?a wrote: > I've already moved database to a diferent partition nad got the same > results, I wonder, if it is a hardware problem, why can I access both > tables individually with no problem at all ?. Doesn't sound like hardware, then. I think yo

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Dmitry Tkach
Ouch, this means that for every insert we would have to trigger a procedure which will: COUNT IF > Limit DELETE OLDEST This would be pretty much damn ressource intensive on a table with million of records, would not it ? You can keep the count in a table on the side, and have it updated by th

Re: [GENERAL] ODBC query problem

2003-07-16 Thread Maksim Likharev
Forgotten to ask, what is locale for DB cluster? -Original Message- From: Luis Magaña [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:37 AM To: Andrew Sullivan Cc: Postgresql General Mail List Subject: Re: [GENERAL] ODBC query problem I've compiled postgresql in 32bit mode, a

Re: [GENERAL] dump_all/restore times?

2003-07-16 Thread Joe Conway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The dump file was about 7GB. (That seems about right based on past I started the restore at 6PM last night, 18 hours later I'm hoping it is getting close to being done, as it has been building indexes for the past hour or so. The test system is quite a bit slower th

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Jean-Luc Lachance
OUCH!!! Do a COUNT(*) on a 10M row table Forget it. Here is a simple solution. Add a SERIAL field to the table. Set the maximum value for that sequence to the number of records you want to keep. Use a before insert trigger to replace the insert with an update if the key already exist. No need

Re: [GENERAL] ODBC query problem

2003-07-16 Thread Luis Magaña
Locale is es_MX and it seems that the hardware issue wil be the reason. I've moved it to another partition and now is working fine. I'll do more testing. Thanks for the help. Regards. On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 12:52, Maksim Likharev wrote: > Forgotten to ask, what is locale for DB cluster? > > --

Re: [GENERAL] ODBC query problem

2003-07-16 Thread Luis Magaña
I've moved the database to a third location in the same disk using pg_dumpall, the new location works with no errors, the initdb was made without localization. The production db was inited with es_MX locale, may that has something to do with the problem ?. On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 12:40, Andrew Sull

Re: [GENERAL] ODBC query problem

2003-07-16 Thread Maksim Likharev
Yes it is most likely locale, if you have core, try to use on Solaris pstack you_core_file, should be "pretty distinct" back trace -Original Message- From: Luis Magaña [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:06 AM To: Andrew Sullivan Cc: Postgresql General Mail List Su

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Dennis Gearon
Good idea! Jean-Luc Lachance wrote: OUCH!!! Do a COUNT(*) on a 10M row table Forget it. Here is a simple solution. Add a SERIAL field to the table. Set the maximum value for that sequence to the number of records you want to keep. Use a before insert trigger to replace the insert with an upd

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Leon Oosterwijk
All, There's a database format called "rrd" or round robin database. this was specifically designed for wrap-around data storage. since you are trying to store 10mil+ syslog messages this might not be the right tool. I'm just mentioning it because it perhaps the way the rrd keeps track of wrap-aro

[GENERAL] changing an update via rules - caught in recursion

2003-07-16 Thread Lauren Matheson
--- don't think this made it through to the list --- Hello, I am having difficulty setting an on update rule which seems to be caught in a recursive loop. What is the best way to modify values sent to an update query? If it is helpful, here is the specific situation: The context is a table with

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 01:33:35PM -0500, Leon Oosterwijk wrote: > store 10mil+ syslog messages this might not be the right tool. I'm just > mentioning it because it perhaps the way the rrd keeps track of wrap-around > might be a good way to implement this in postgres. Hmm. Using the cycling feat

Re: [GENERAL] Couple Postgres View Questions

2003-07-16 Thread Darko Prenosil
- Original Message - From: "Brian Maguire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Postgresql General Mail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 6:44 PM Subject: [GENERAL] Couple Postgres View Questions >I have a couple questions about Postgres and Views. >I am curious about what Po

Re: [GENERAL] COPY problem

2003-07-16 Thread Andrew Gould
--- Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am creating a new database on a brand new server > (P4, 1GB RAM, > postgres 7.3.3, debian 3.0) and trying to populate > one of the tables > with the COPY command. I split a large file with 20 > million records into > 20 files, but when I run COPY I usually

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread greg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > It would be great if this could be achieved by RDBMS engine itself, does > Postgres supports this kind of tables ? And if not, what would be the most > elegant soluion to achieve our goal in your oppinion ? First question: no. :) Second question:

Re: [GENERAL] selects during vacuum

2003-07-16 Thread Joe Maldonado
Here it is... things to note: This table contains 1 record allways. The record is updated once per second. Every 167 seconds a vacuum analyze is run on the table After some time it hangs in the analyze and blocks all access to that table including selects.

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Sean Chittenden
> > store 10mil+ syslog messages this might not be the right tool. I'm > > just mentioning it because it perhaps the way the rrd keeps track > > of wrap-around might be a good way to implement this in postgres. > > Hmm. Using the cycling feature of a sequence, couldn't you create a > trigger whic

Install new language - Prev: Re: [GENERAL] Are you frustrated with PostgreSQL

2003-07-16 Thread Terence Chang
Folks: I would like to thank for those who answer my questions. My client have decide to switch from MySQL to PostgreSQL. I have successfully installed PostgreSQL with Cygwin on my XP laptop. It's a good start. I, however, have some other questions. 1. I am viewing the database from both PostgreS

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Sean Chittenden
> > > store 10mil+ syslog messages this might not be the right tool. I'm > > > just mentioning it because it perhaps the way the rrd keeps track > > > of wrap-around might be a good way to implement this in postgres. > > > > Hmm. Using the cycling feature of a sequence, couldn't you create a > >

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Dmitry Tkach
Sean Chittenden wrote: store 10mil+ syslog messages this might not be the right tool. I'm just mentioning it because it perhaps the way the rrd keeps track of wrap-around might be a good way to implement this in postgres. Hmm. Using the cycling feature of a sequence, couldn't you create a

Re: [GENERAL] Billions of records?

2003-07-16 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 07:53:37PM +0530, Shridhar Daithankar wrote: > Each tuple in postgresql has around 28 bytes of overhead. Index tuple has 12 Is this accurate? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/view.php?version=7.3&idoc=1&file=page.html indicates a per-tuple overhead of 23 bytes. Or have thin

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 03:40:47PM -0400, Dmitry Tkach wrote: > I believe, you can save one query by replacing 'if exists then update else > insert' part with just 'delete unconditionally then insert' I was going to mention this. Because updates in PGSQL are actually DELETE/INSERT in a single st

Re: Install new language - Prev: Re: [GENERAL] Are you frustrated with PostgreSQL

2003-07-16 Thread Robert J. Sanford, Jr.
For some of your Cygwin specific questions you may want to look at the ports mailing list. They will be more knowledgeable there. > I would like to thank for those who answer my questions. > My client have decide to switch from MySQL to PostgreSQL. > I have successfully installed PostgreSQL with C

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Sean Chittenden
> >I use this very approach. > > > >CREATE SEQUENCE syslog_id_seq INCREMENT 1 MINVALUE 1 MAXVALUE 25 CYCLE; > >CREATE TABLE syslog ( > > id INT NOT NULL, > > msg TEXT NOT NULL > >); [snip slower function] > I believe, you can save one query by replacing 'if exists then > update else insert' par

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Dennis Gearon
You could skip the extra select in any case, if you used a boolean column named 'valid_data', and always updated it with a rue, but prepopulated it with a 'false'. Your selects OUT of the table would use the WHERE clause of 'valid_data' = TRUE. updating and selecting on a bool would not take much

Re: Install new language - Prev: Re: [GENERAL] Are you frustrated with PostgreSQL

2003-07-16 Thread Darko Prenosil
I'm going to skip the questions that I don't know the answer. - Original Message - From: "Terence Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Install new language - Prev: Re: [GENERAL] Are you frustrated with PostgreSQL > Folks: > >

Re: [GENERAL] why can't I find the other schemas in my restored database except public schemas ?

2003-07-16 Thread Tom Lane
"Litel Wang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I create a database in the server of my company and get a backup of this database . > but I can't find the other schemas (such as pg_catlog,pg_toast) in my restored > database except public schemas when I restore it at home .what's the problem ? What do

Re: [GENERAL] Unicode database question

2003-07-16 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 08:59:30PM -0400, Vernon Smith wrote: > I don't know what is your application environment. The following is > quoted from the page 191 of "Java Enterprise Best Practices": > > [...] > > The reference web page, > www.postgresql.org/idocs/index.php?cjarset.html doesn't exis

Re: [GENERAL] Anyone used pgHoster.com?

2003-07-16 Thread Dennis Gearon
I decided to look at jumpline, minimum of ~30.00 to get postgres. Does not say if you get pl/pgsql with that or not, or daily backups, and lots of other goodies. The price is fairly equivilent, otherwise, to pghoster. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3

Re: [GENERAL] Unicode database question

2003-07-16 Thread Dennis Gearon
It would sure be nice to be able to serve any language based on UTF-8 in binary fields with no location rquired, and any sorting done either in binary or through an additional SQL extension such as: SELECT some_field FROM some_table WHERE xlate_utf8binary_to_collations( field_name_or_select_stat

Re: [GENERAL] Anyone used pgHoster.com?

2003-07-16 Thread Dan Langille
On 16 Jul 2003 at 17:11, Lynna Landstreet wrote: > I saw a company called pgHoster (www.pghoster.com) listed on the > techdocs.postgresql.com site and their prices for shared hosting seem > to be in line with what we could afford (i.e. dirt cheap). But I'm > wondering if anyone has any experience

[GENERAL] a way to recover the DB of a data/ directory from a corrupted disk?

2003-07-16 Thread Rocael Hernandez
Hello, my case is quite difficult, I think, so all the help you can give me is more than welcome! The short story: I had two disks, the primary running the database server (pg 7.1.2), the second having the daily pg_dump's. The first disk started to have I/O problems, the sencond disk was erased by

Re: [GENERAL] a way to recover the DB of a data/ directory from a corrupted disk?

2003-07-16 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
Hi, No guarentees here, but this may help. It can read the postgres backend files directly and is a bit more robust against errors. It may be able to recover your data for you. However, it requires that the pg_class and pg_attribute tables are still intact. It has rescued one persons 7.3 so it doe

Re: [GENERAL] ERROR: Cache lookup failed for relation 5741599

2003-07-16 Thread jerome
i tried running postgres and did a reindex.. and i got this.. ... NOTICE: relation 16596 was reindexed NOTICE: relation 16598 was reindexed NOTICE: relation 16384 was reindexed NOTICE: relation 16386 was reindexed NOTICE: relation 1262 was reindexed ERROR: Cannot create uniq

Re: [GENERAL] Unicode database question

2003-07-16 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Hi Lanna, we are running postgresql with UNICODE encoding on a regular basis for our shop. This basically means it stores and retrieves strings as utf-8 encoded. If you dont need special collating rules, thats the way to go. However we are using Python/Zope in front of the DB for presentation and

Re: [GENERAL] Unicode database question

2003-07-16 Thread Tony Grant
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 01:39, Lynna Landstreet wrote: > I'm running into a bit of trouble with a Unicode-enabled PostgreSQL database > (some of the data consists of artist and/or image names in other languages, > like French, Spanish, German and Portuguese, which frequently have accents, > and I do

Re: [GENERAL] Postgresql "FIFO" Tables, How-To ?

2003-07-16 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On 16 Jul 2003 at 19:09, Kirill Ponazdyr wrote: > It is for a advanced syslog server product we are currently developing. > > The very basic idea is to feed all syslog messages into a DB and allow > easy monitoring and even correlation, we use Postgres as our DB Backend, > in big environments the