Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: SGVLLUG Oracle and Informix on Linux]

1998-07-24 Thread Marc Fournier
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, The Web Administrator wrote: > Nope.. Oracle has a background process which re-allocates free space..It does get > fragmented, and the only real way to unfrag is to export (dump) and import.No Vacuum, > at least on 7.3.2 So, essentially, our VACUUM command provides f

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: SGVLLUG Oracle and Informix on Linux]

1998-07-24 Thread Bruce Tong
> >> In fact, they are handled by SQL: CREATE DATABASE and DROP DATABASE. The > >> createdb and destroydb tools just call these SQL statements > >Let's remove the "I don't want to think" utilities like > >{create,destroy}{db,user} and force DBA's to actually use the *proper* > >functi

Re: [GENERAL] How about this LOGO?

1998-07-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Dan Delaney wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > We've never really been able to come up with an agreeable image of > > "the mascot"...last I heard, we were looking at an alligator, with some > > images having been made, but no final image decided on...

Re: [GENERAL] How about this LOGO?

1998-07-24 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Hey, my preference is an elephant. Big, strong, reliable and > never forgets... Too many connotations with the GOP... Brett W. McCoy http://www.lan2wan.com/~bmccoy

Re: [GENERAL] How about this LOGO?

1998-07-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Brett W. McCoy wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > Hey, my preference is an elephant. Big, strong, reliable and > > never forgets... > > Too many connotations with the GOP... Enlighten me...what is "the GOP"?

Re: [GENERAL] How about this LOGO?

1998-07-24 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Too many connotations with the GOP... > > Enlighten me...what is "the GOP"? Sorry. The US Republican Party, which uses an elephant for their mascot. Brett W. McCoy http://www.lan2wan.co

Re: [GENERAL] How about this LOGO?

1998-07-24 Thread Bruce Tong
> > > Too many connotations with the GOP... > > > > Enlighten me...what is "the GOP"? > > Sorry. The US Republican Party, which uses an elephant for their mascot. I wouldn't let that stop you from using an elephant. I think that's a pretty far leap. And I don't expect anyone would associat

[GENERAL] Re: [INTERFACES] ODBC Driver -- Access Order By problem solved!!!

1998-07-24 Thread Byron Nikolaidis
Bruce Tong wrote: > > > Another window appeared and said "Error while executing the query. ERROR: > The field being ordered by must appear in the target list (#1)." > > Since I hadn't specified any sorting, the "order by" part of the message > had me confused. I decided to have MS Access show m

Re: [GENERAL] Sufficient Primary Key?

1998-07-24 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Dan Delaney wrote: >I'm working on a library catalog and trying to decide what to use > for the primary key for the authors. Do you think that the first > three letters of first and last name with the birth year would be > sufficient (e.g., Alan Watts would be ALAWAT1915)

Re: [GENERAL] Sufficient Primary Key?

1998-07-24 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Dan Delaney wrote: > I don't like doing that because I don't want to store the entire > name in every other table which needs to be linked with this one. > So, for instance, in the table that keeps track of what authors go > to what book, I want it to just have two fields, th

Re: [GENERAL] What about Unicode?

1998-07-24 Thread Bruce Tong
> Does PostgreSQL support Unicode text fields? If not, that would be > AWEFULLY nice! Especially now that so many OSs (the MacOS for one) > and standards (HTML for one) are beginning to use it. Yeah, I'll probably eventually try to exchange data with a Magic Cap OS based PDA which also uses Unico

Re: [DOCS] Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: SGVLLUG Oracle and Informix on Linux]

1998-07-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
> > >> In fact, they are handled by SQL: CREATE DATABASE and DROP DATABASE. The > > >> createdb and destroydb tools just call these SQL statements > > > >Let's remove the "I don't want to think" utilities like > > >{create,destroy}{db,user} and force DBA's to actually use the *proper*

Re: [GENERAL] How about this LOGO?

1998-07-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Bruce Tong wrote: > > > > Too many connotations with the GOP... > > > > > > Enlighten me...what is "the GOP"? > > > > Sorry. The US Republican Party, which uses an elephant for their mascot. > > I wouldn't let that stop you from using an elephant. I think that's a > pre

[GENERAL] Re: [INTERFACES] ODBC Driver -- Access Order By problem solved!!!

1998-07-24 Thread Byron Nikolaidis
Bruce Tong wrote: > > > The working version of \windows\system\MSJET35.DLL is 3.51.0623.4 > > The broken version I tested was 3.50.3602.4 > > I'm not sure at what release they fixed this problem. > > > > I will dig around on MS web site. > > > > Does anyone know if its OK to redistribute the MS J

Re: [DOCS] Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: SGVLLUG Oracle and Informix on Linux]

1998-07-24 Thread Bruce Tong
> They have to connect to template1 to do the work. Currently, they don't > need to know template1 even exists, so it seems like an added burden. I > will add a mention to the createdb, destroydb man pages. createuser > does psql too. And as a result, I didn't know what template1 was for until

Re: [DOCS] Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: SGVLLUG Oracle and Informix on Linux]

1998-07-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Bruce Tong wrote: > > They have to connect to template1 to do the work. Currently, they don't > > need to know template1 even exists, so it seems like an added burden. I > > will add a mention to the createdb, destroydb man pages. createuser > > does psql too. > > And as

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: SGVLLUG Oracle and Informix on Linux]

1998-07-24 Thread The Web Administrator
Herve Lefebvre wrote: > ---Marc Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, The Web Administrator wrote: > > > > > Nope.. Oracle has a background process which re-allocates free > space..It does get > > > fragmented, and the only real way to unfrag is to export (dump) > and i

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: SGVLLUG Oracle and Informix on Linux]

1998-07-24 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, The Web Administrator wrote: > The boys at Postgres have so far done a good job of creating an effecient > Database, let's keep it that way, rather than created a Clone of some > commercial software that might have years of compatibility issues that > forced implementation of

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: SGVLLUG Oracle and Informix on Linux]

1998-07-24 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Richard Lynch wrote: > At 8:28 AM 7/24/98, Marc Fournier wrote: > > >So, essentially, our VACUUM command provides functionality that > >Oracle *doesn't* have, right? > > Yes, but yours doesn't run automatically. > > > Ideally, when one created a database, one coul

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: SGVLLUG Oracle and Informix on Linux]

1998-07-24 Thread Richard Lynch
At 8:28 AM 7/24/98, Marc Fournier wrote: >So, essentially, our VACUUM command provides functionality that >Oracle *doesn't* have, right? Yes, but yours doesn't run automatically. Ideally, when one created a database, one could specify vacuum frequency and/or time slot, and PostgreSQL w

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: SGVLLUG Oracle and Informix on Linux]

1998-07-24 Thread James Olin Oden
> I think only doing it the SQL way would be fine. Documentation would, of > course, have to cover it That last sentence says it all..."Documentations would, of course, have to cofver it." The reason I used createdb to generate the my database, is that is what the man page said to do. Unfortun

Re: [GENERAL] Sufficient Primary Key?

1998-07-24 Thread James Olin Oden
> > > I don't like doing that because I don't want to store the entire > name in every other table which needs to be linked with this one. > So, for instance, in the table that keeps track of what authors go > to what book, I want it to just have two fields, the Book's primary > key and the Autho

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [INTERFACES] ODBC Driver -- Access Order By problem solved!!!

1998-07-24 Thread Richard Lynch
At 10:36 AM 7/24/98, Byron Nikolaidis wrote: >Bruce Tong wrote: >> Another window appeared and said "Error while executing the query. ERROR: >> The field being ordered by must appear in the target list (#1)." >> >> Since I hadn't specified any sorting, the "order by" part of the message >> had me

Re: [GENERAL] Nested tables

1998-07-24 Thread Matt McClure
On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Ferruccio Zamuner wrote: > CREATE TABLE foo ( > x int2 > ); > > CREATE TABLE bar ( > y foo, > z int > ); > > I read on some Postgres mailing digest that I had to put the OID of instance > of foo into y field of bar. > > So I tried. > > The problem is that when I sub

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: SGVLLUG Oracle and Informix on Linux]

1998-07-24 Thread Richard Lynch
>On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Richard Lynch wrote: > >> At 8:28 AM 7/24/98, Marc Fournier wrote: >> >> >So, essentially, our VACUUM command provides functionality that >> >Oracle *doesn't* have, right? >> >> Yes, but yours doesn't run automatically. >> >> >> Ideally, when one created a database,

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [INTERFACES] ODBC Driver -- Access Order By problem solved!!!

1998-07-24 Thread Byron Nikolaidis
Richard Lynch wrote: > > > FWIW: > > I seldom do much more than add the tables in MS Access's stupid > query design thingy. I immediately use the menu to view SQL and > just type the SQL I want. Obviously, different folks think different ways, > and maybe you actually understand and like th

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [INTERFACES] ODBC Driver -- Access Order By problem solved!!!

1998-07-24 Thread Bruce Tong
> FWIW: > > I seldom do much more than add the tables in MS Access's stupid > query design thingy. I immediately use the menu to view SQL and > just type the SQL I want. Obviously, different folks think different ways, > and maybe you actually understand and like that MS Access point and clic

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [INTERFACES] ODBC Driver -- Access Order By problem solved!!!

1998-07-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
> > Since I'm learning SQL in my spare time, I tend to use these feature in MS > Access and PgAccess to point me in the right direction or sometimes > confirm, or deny my assertions. > > I like psql, but its not the kind of tool which suggests other > alternatives. It just says "this part is bog