Re: Speaking of upgrades... (was Re: [GENERAL] Predicted ...)

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/07 00:19, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 10:16:39PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> What are your plans for reducing the number of resources needed to >> upgrade databases? > > As noted, the table structure changes only

Re: Speaking of upgrades... (was Re: [GENERAL] Predicted ...)

2007-01-26 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 10:16:39PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > What are your plans for reducing the number of resources needed to > upgrade databases? As noted, the table structure changes only slightly between versions, if at all. What does change significantly is the catalog. Even now there have

Re: Speaking of upgrades... (was Re: [GENERAL] Predicted ...)

2007-01-26 Thread Joshua D. Drake
1. Cleanly shutdown pg. 2. Install v8.2. 3. Start pg. 4. psql -c 'REINDEX DATABASE' some_db >>> The changes are usually very subtle, like changes in the storage format >>> for certain data types, or bit changes in the row headers --- it isn't >>> something really of interest ex

Re: Speaking of upgrades... (was Re: [GENERAL] Predicted ...)

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 21:48, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Yes: >>> >>> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/migration.html >> I was thinking of something like the release notes, but a bit more >> targeted. (I know. diff the source.) >

Re: Speaking of upgrades... (was Re: [GENERAL] Predicted ...)

2007-01-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Ron Johnson wrote: > > Yes: > > > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/migration.html > > I was thinking of something like the release notes, but a bit more > targeted. (I know. diff the source.) > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/interactive/release-8-2.html > > For example, I

Re: Speaking of upgrades... (was Re: [GENERAL] Predicted ...)

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 20:12, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >>> There is no set time frame planned that I know of. >>> >>> It is more a matter of users that keep the old versions alive. Some with >>> large datasets on busy servers that can't allocate

Re: Speaking of upgrades... (was Re: [GENERAL] Predicted ...)

2007-01-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Ron Johnson wrote: > > There is no set time frame planned that I know of. > > > > It is more a matter of users that keep the old versions alive. Some with > > large datasets on busy servers that can't allocate enough downtime to > > upgrade tend to be keeping the older versions running. > > How m

Speaking of upgrades... (was Re: [GENERAL] Predicted ...)

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 17:28, Shane Ambler wrote: > Bill Moran wrote: >> I spend some time googling this and searching the Postgresql.org site, >> but >> I'm either not good enough with the search strings, or it's not to be >> found. >> >> I'm trying to plan upgr