Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-13 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 05:28:57PM +, Woodchuck Bill wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc G. Fournier") wrote in > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Unless its spam, it goes through ... I don't (nor have I ever) refused a > > post based on content other then spam ... even if its anti-PostgreSQL >

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-13 Thread Woodchuck Bill
Polarhound <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:kM2dnd_0xq99yw3cRVn- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> (BTW, since the person responsible for setting up the rogue groups >> appears to be aware of the discussion to legitimize the groups, why >> isn't he taking part in it?) >> > > That's my whole point.. He's re

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-13 Thread Woodchuck Bill
Andrew - Supernews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> Marc, please stop removing news.groups from your replies. > > He's posting to the mailing list; he probably can't avoid dropping the > crosspost. > He can make a nominal effort and post *something* to news.groups. --

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-13 Thread Woodchuck Bill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc G. Fournier") wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Unless its spam, it goes through ... I don't (nor have I ever) refused a > post based on content other then spam ... even if its anti-PostgreSQL > *shrug* The problem with the system is that the spam *all* gets posted to

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-13 Thread Jim Riley
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:29:28 -0400 (AST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc G. Fournier") wrote: >On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: > >> The groups aren't listed as moderated. Anyone who wants to post is >> able to. Those not on the mailing list don't go through. That's the >> problem. > >As long

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Andrew - Supernews wrote: On 2004-11-08, Woodchuck Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc G. Fournier") wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unless its spam, it goes through ... I don't (nor have I ever) refused a post based on content other then spam ... even if i

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-08 Thread Andrew - Supernews
On 2004-11-08, Woodchuck Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc G. Fournier") wrote in > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> Unless its spam, it goes through ... I don't (nor have I ever) refused a >> post based on content other then spam ... even if its anti-PostgreSQL >> *shrug* >

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: It receives those posted to USENet just as it would any other group. That's why those gated don't make it to databasix.com for days after they're actually posted. So each appears twice. Once as the original USENet post and once as a post forwarded by

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-08 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 11:48 AM 11/8/2004, you wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: At 11:01 PM 11/7/2004, you wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: User makes a comment in USENet. Post gets seen on usenet servers around the world. Moderator chooses not to approve. Unless ist Spam, moderator

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: DataBasix carries it even though it wasn't an officially created group because some of our users requested it and they read it. To improve speed, do you want to setup an inter-connect between our news server and yours? Then I've noticed some notes here

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-08 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 10:20 PM 11/7/2004, you wrote: Andy wrote: > Someone posted this official proposal to create > comp.databases.postgresql.general again. He wrote his own charter. As > far as I know, he did not consult any of the postgresql groups first. > There may be an upcoming vote on this, so please stay inf

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Kenneth Downs wrote: Then I've noticed some notes here and there that you are supposed to send some emails to a list-server if you post, to avoid messing up the mailing list? Is that right? Why would I be worried about a listserv? There are no such requirements that I'm aware

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: At 04:29 PM 11/7/2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: The groups aren't listed as moderated. Anyone who wants to post is able to. Those not on the mailing list don't go through. That's the problem. As long as the postin

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: User makes a comment in USENet. Post gets seen on usenet servers around the world. Moderator chooses not to approve. Unless ist Spam, moderator always approves ... I know, cause its me ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread BarB
On 4 Nov 2004 17:17:20 GMT, "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Someone posted this official proposal to create >comp.databases.postgresql.general again. He wrote his own charter. As >far as I know, he did not consult any of the postgresql groups first. >There may be an upcoming vote on this, so pl

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Rob Kelk
On 4 Nov 2004 17:17:20 GMT, "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to news.groups: >Someone posted this official proposal to create >comp.databases.postgresql.general again. As the name says, this is a Request for Discussion, not an "official proposal" (whatever that may be). Discussion about this is

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Kenneth Downs
Andy wrote: > Someone posted this official proposal to create > comp.databases.postgresql.general again. He wrote his own charter. As > far as I know, he did not consult any of the postgresql groups first. > There may be an upcoming vote on this, so please stay informed and read > news.newgroups.a

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:16:05 GMT, Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Gary L. Burnore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:26:42 GMT, Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>wrote: >> >>>"Robert G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Mike. A number of us from the mailing lis

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
At 04:29 PM 11/7/2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: The groups aren't listed as moderated. Anyone who wants to post is able to. Those not on the mailing list don't go through. That's the problem. As long as the posting gets to the gateway, it gets put into the

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Woodchuck Bill
Klaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> No that is not what I'm proposing. Each group MUST go through the >> RFD and CFV seperately. I started off with the most popular group >> first. After It was done, I would have started on the rest. > > Not true. It is actually rat

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: The groups aren't listed as moderated. Anyone who wants to post is able to. Those not on the mailing list don't go through. That's the problem. As long as the posting gets to the gateway, it gets put into the moderator (me) queue for approval ... M

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
On 7 Nov 2004 20:01:51 GMT, "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"Stephan Szabo" wrote: > >(politely snipped) > >Hi Stephan. As Robert tried to explain, this Mike Cox character Hi Stephen, this "Andy" character isn't using a real name or address. >is >proposing that only the general list become a

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:26:42 GMT, Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"Robert G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>Mike Cox wrote: >>> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) >>> unmoderated group comp.databases.postgresql.general >>> >>> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the cre

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Mike Cox
Andy wrote: > "Stephan Szabo" wrote: > > (politely snipped) > > Hi Stephan. As Robert tried to explain, this Mike Cox character is > proposing that only the general list become an official Big-8 > newsgroup. No that is not what I'm proposing. Each group MUST go through the RFD and CFV seperat

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gary L. Burnore wrote: This talk of opening up the list to the Big Eight and making a 2-way gateway would have a devastating effect on the way the list currently functions. Then get the gateway removed. One way causes grief. Someone reads a post, replies and bad stuff happens.

Re: [GENERAL] RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.general

2004-11-07 Thread Gary L. Burnore
[posted and mailed to the list] On 6 Nov 2004 01:44:34 -0800, "Robert G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Mike Cox wrote: >> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) >> unmoderated group comp.databases.postgresql.general >> >> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of >> a world