Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 5/10/2017 2:43 PM, Adrian Klaver wrote: 1) Uber 2)Yahoo 3) Instagram and, each of those giant businesses has their own entirely custom 'platforms', so its not really fair to call them 'largest web platforms' as each of those custom platforms is in use at only one business. Sure, larges

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-10 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 05/10/2017 12:46 PM, Paul Hughes wrote: Adrian Klaver Wrote: Many on this list(myself included) will want to know how you came to that conclusion and I am speaking as someone who uses Python, Django and Postgres. I came to that conclusion when I saw a list of the top 15 websites (based on

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-10 Thread Gavin Flower
Hi Paul, See comments at the end... On 10/05/17 08:00, Paul Hughes wrote: Thank you all for taking the time to answer my questions. I've been out of the programming world for a long time, so I am back to being a newbie. Even if you stay in the game, technology changes - so one has to keep lea

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-10 Thread Paul Hughes
Adrian Klaver Wrote: >>Many on this list(myself included) will want to know how you came to that conclusion and I am speaking as someone who uses Python, Django and Postgres. I came to that conclusion when I saw a list of the top 15 websites (based on traffic). On that list, *all* of the sites th

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-10 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 05/09/2017 01:00 PM, Paul Hughes wrote: Thank you all for taking the time to answer my questions. I've been out of the programming world for a long time, so I am back to being a newbie. I was told this is the place for newcomers to ask questions. I apologize if my questions did not contain t

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-10 Thread Paul Hughes
Thank you all for taking the time to answer my questions. I've been out of the programming world for a long time, so I am back to being a newbie. I was told this is the place for newcomers to ask questions. I apologize if my questions did not contain the necessary sophistication or nuance for some

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-10 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 05:45:53PM -0700, Paul Hughes wrote: > Why are Postgres and Python so married, I dare say that's a misconception. However, Python "works so well", that "professional amateurs" (like myself) who gravitate towards PostgreSQL for the obvious reasons might tend to chose Pytho

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-10 Thread Dick Kniep
As a long time user of the combination, Postgresql, Python, Django, Flask etc. here are my 2 cents: The frameworks of python; Django (enormous) or Flask (smaller) and there are more, are of superb quality, battle hardened and are used in many many companies and high volume sites around the wor

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-09 Thread Steve Crawford
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Paul Hughes wrote: > Hello, > > I noticed that most of the largest web platforms that use PostgreSQL as > their primary database, also use Python as their primary back-end language. > Yet, according to every benchmark I could find over the last couple of > years, b

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-09 Thread George Neuner
On Mon, 8 May 2017 14:26:02 -0700, Paul Hughes wrote: >Hello, > >I noticed that most of the largest web platforms that use PostgreSQL as >their primary database, also use Python as their primary back-end language. >Yet, according to every benchmark I could find over the last couple of >years, bac

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-09 Thread Francisco Olarte
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:44 PM, vinny wrote: > In fact, I don't think many companies/developers even choose a language > or database, but rather just use whatever they have experience in. That is choosing. You choose them because you know them. Francisco Olarte. -- Sent via pgsql-general mai

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-09 Thread Geoff Winkless
On 8 May 2017 at 22:26, Paul Hughes wrote: > I noticed that most of the largest web platforms that use PostgreSQL as > their primary database, also use Python as their primary back-end language. > Yet, according to every benchmark I could find over the last couple of > years, back-end languages l

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-09 Thread Peter Devoy
> My question still remains though - why is it that all the largest web > platforms that have used PostgreSQL *specifically* choose Python as their > back-end language? If you write the developers a nice tweet or e-mail they might tell you. Anything else is going to be speculation because th

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-09 Thread Guyren Howe
On May 9, 2017, at 2:07 , Paul Hughes wrote: > > Postgres might be a popular choice among Rails devs, but Ruby is not as > popular among the big web platforms that choose Postgres. Ahem. AirBnB, Bloomberg, Crunchbase, Github, Groupon, Heroku, Hulu, Kickstarter, Scribd, Shopify, Slideshare, S

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-09 Thread D'Arcy Cain
On 2017-05-09 05:26 AM, Francisco Olarte wrote: Do you have any data supporting that? AFAIK people tend to choose the language first, database second, not the other way round, and many times the platform language is nailed, but the db can be changed. Also, WHICH platforms are you referring to?

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-09 Thread vinny
On 2017-05-09 11:26, Francisco Olarte wrote: Paul: On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Paul Hughes wrote: My question still remains though - why is it that all the largest web platforms that have used PostgreSQL *specifically* choose Python as their back-end language? Do you have any data s

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-09 Thread Neil Anderson
On 9 May 2017 at 06:20, Neil Anderson wrote: > On 9 May 2017 at 05:26, Francisco Olarte wrote: >> Paul: >> >> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Paul Hughes wrote: >>> My question still remains though - why is it that all the largest web >>> platforms that have used PostgreSQL *specifically* c

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-09 Thread Neil Anderson
On 9 May 2017 at 05:26, Francisco Olarte wrote: > Paul: > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Paul Hughes wrote: >> My question still remains though - why is it that all the largest web >> platforms that have used PostgreSQL *specifically* choose Python as their >> back-end language? > > Do y

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-09 Thread Francisco Olarte
Paul: On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Paul Hughes wrote: > My question still remains though - why is it that all the largest web > platforms that have used PostgreSQL *specifically* choose Python as their > back-end language? Do you have any data supporting that? AFAIK people tend to choos

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-08 Thread Neil Anderson
I'm also interested to know which frameworks you're referring to? Regarding Node and Mongo I imagine that they are well suited because Mongo stores JSON documents and Node, being Javascript, has first class support for JSON. Python and PostgreSQL's relationship might be more of a principled one? P

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-08 Thread Paul Hughes
Thank you for the links. I'm glad there are other languages that are working with PostgreSQL. My question still remains though - why is it that all the largest web platforms that have used PostgreSQL *specifically* choose Python as their back-end language? Why are Postgres and Python so married, in

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-08 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 05/08/2017 05:45 PM, Paul Hughes wrote: Thank you for the links. I'm glad there are other languages that are working with PostgreSQL. My question still remains though - why is it that all the largest web platforms that have used PostgreSQL *specifically* choose Python as their back-end langu

Re: [GENERAL] Python versus Other Languages using PostgreSQL

2017-05-08 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 05/08/2017 02:26 PM, Paul Hughes wrote: Hello, I noticed that most of the largest web platforms that use PostgreSQL as their primary database, also use Python as their primary back-end language. Yet, according to every benchmark I could find over the last couple of years, back-end languages l