Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 10/27/2011 04:24 PM, Chris Travers wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: I note in the OPs case they are relying on the customer to install PostGIS. The GPL only applies to *redistribution* not usage. So if you're not supplying your customers with PostGI

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-27 Thread Chris Travers
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > I note in the OPs case they are relying on the customer to install > PostGIS.  The GPL only applies to *redistribution* not usage.  So if > you're not supplying your customers with PostGIS then the fact that > it's GPL seems complet

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 01:41:17PM +0200, Thomas Kellerer wrote: > Thank you very much for the detailed explanation. > > I always have a hard time to understand the GPL especially the > dividing line between "using", "linkin" and creating a derived work. That because the GPL does not get to defin

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-25 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Mark Cave-Ayland, 25.10.2011 12:51: As Robert has suggested, you have misunderstood the GPL license - if you make changes to the *PostGIS* source code AND you distribute the modified code to your customer (rather than offering a managed service), you would need to make the changes available to yo

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-25 Thread John R Pierce
On 10/25/11 3:51 AM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: As Robert has suggested, you have misunderstood the GPL license - if you make changes to the *PostGIS* source code AND you distribute the modified code to your customer (rather than offering a managed service), you would need to make the changes avai

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-25 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On -10/01/37 20:59, Thomas Kellerer wrote: Now PostGIS is licensed under the GPL and I wonder if we can use it in a commercial (customer specific) project then. The source code will not be made open source, but of course the customer will get the source code. Is it still OK to use the GPL licen

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread Craig Ringer
On 22/10/11 02:53, Eduardo Morras wrote: > At 09:26 21/10/2011, Thomas Kellerer wrote: >> Hello, >> >> we are using PostgreSQL in our projects and would like to integrate >> PostGIS as well. >> >> Now PostGIS is licensed under the GPL and I wonder if we can use it in >> a commercial (customer speci

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Tomas Vondra wrote on 24.10.2011 20:11: On 24 Říjen 2011, 19:44, Thomas Kellerer wrote: Pavel Stehule wrote on 24.10.2011 12:19: there is not clean who is customer and what is one unit. If you distribute PostGIS inside your application as one unit to customer, then your application should to us

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 24 Říjen 2011, 19:44, Thomas Kellerer wrote: > Pavel Stehule wrote on 24.10.2011 12:19: >> there is not clean who is customer and what is one unit. If you >> distribute PostGIS inside your application as one unit to customer, >> then your application should to use GPL. > > So if we only distribu

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread Pavel Stehule
2011/10/24 Thomas Kellerer : > Pavel Stehule wrote on 24.10.2011 12:19: >> >> there is not clean who is customer and what is one unit. If you >> distribute PostGIS inside your application as one unit to customer, >> then your application should to use GPL. > > So if we only distribute our applicati

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Pavel Stehule wrote on 24.10.2011 12:19: there is not clean who is customer and what is one unit. If you distribute PostGIS inside your application as one unit to customer, then your application should to use GPL. So if we only distribute our application and require the customer to install Pos

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread Pavel Stehule
2011/10/24 Edoardo Panfili : > Il 24/10/11 10:03, Pavel Stehule ha scritto: >> >> 2011/10/24 Thomas Kellerer: >>> >>> Eduardo Morras, 21.10.2011 20:53: > > Now PostGIS is licensed under the GPL and I wonder if we can use it > in a commercial (customer specific) project then. The source

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread Edoardo Panfili
Il 24/10/11 12:19, Pavel Stehule ha scritto: 2011/10/24 Edoardo Panfili: Il 24/10/11 10:03, Pavel Stehule ha scritto: 2011/10/24 Thomas Kellerer: Eduardo Morras, 21.10.2011 20:53: Now PostGIS is licensed under the GPL and I wonder if we can use it in a commercial (customer specific) projec

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread Adrian Klaver
On Monday, October 24, 2011 12:31:16 am Thomas Kellerer wrote: > Eduardo Morras, 21.10.2011 20:53: > >> Now PostGIS is licensed under the GPL and I wonder if we can use it > >> in a commercial (customer specific) project then. The source code > >> will not be made open source, but of course the cus

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread Edoardo Panfili
Il 24/10/11 10:03, Pavel Stehule ha scritto: 2011/10/24 Thomas Kellerer: Eduardo Morras, 21.10.2011 20:53: Now PostGIS is licensed under the GPL and I wonder if we can use it in a commercial (customer specific) project then. The source code will not be made open source, but of course the custo

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread Pavel Stehule
2011/10/24 Thomas Kellerer : > Eduardo Morras, 21.10.2011 20:53: >>> >>> Now PostGIS is licensed under the GPL and I wonder if we can use it >>> in a commercial (customer specific) project then. The source code >>> will not be made open source, but of course the customer will get >>> the source cod

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread robert rottermann
Am 24/10/11 09:31, schrieb Thomas Kellerer: Eduardo Morras, 21.10.2011 20:53: Now PostGIS is licensed under the GPL and I wonder if we can use it in a commercial (customer specific) project then. The source code will not be made open source, but of course the customer will get the source code.

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-24 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Eduardo Morras, 21.10.2011 20:53: Now PostGIS is licensed under the GPL and I wonder if we can use it in a commercial (customer specific) project then. The source code will not be made open source, but of course the customer will get the source code. Is it still OK to use the GPL licensed PostGI

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-21 Thread Eduardo Morras
At 09:26 21/10/2011, Thomas Kellerer wrote: Hello, we are using PostgreSQL in our projects and would like to integrate PostGIS as well. Now PostGIS is licensed under the GPL and I wonder if we can use it in a commercial (customer specific) project then. The source code will not be made open

Re: [GENERAL] PostGIS in a commercial project

2011-10-21 Thread Craig Ringer
I'm not a lawyer, cockroach, or hobbyist license enthusiast. Here's my impression. First, I'm sure this must come IP a lot. Have you looked for a PostGIS licensing faq? Checked their mailing lists? The issues with bundling MySQL were mostly around the GPL-licensed client library, something that d