Re: [GENERAL] Oracle outer join syntax

2006-04-05 Thread Stefan Nobis
Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sounds like both your database and your DBA are dinosaurs ;-). Yes. > If you can't get your DBA to update from Oracle 8 to modern Oracle, > you've got zip chance of persuading him to deal with Postgres, Postgres is for use with an extern customer, so the c

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle outer join syntax

2006-04-05 Thread Stefan Nobis
Csaba Nagy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > both postgres and Oracle, and I have to say it took quite some time > and a few nasty surprises until everything was stable Thank you very much for your comments. -- Until the next mail..., Stefan. pgpV8KsgMY9JV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle outer join syntax

2006-04-05 Thread Simon Riggs
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 12:19 -0400, Neil Conway wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 14:46 +0200, Stefan Nobis wrote: > > Is there any way (or working solution) to extend PostgreSQL to accept > > Oracles outer join syntax with '(+)'? > > Not AFAIK, and there are no plans to add support that I'm aware of.

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle outer join syntax

2006-04-05 Thread Neil Conway
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 14:46 +0200, Stefan Nobis wrote: > Is there any way (or working solution) to extend PostgreSQL to accept > Oracles outer join syntax with '(+)'? Not AFAIK, and there are no plans to add support that I'm aware of. EnterpriseDB claim to have pretty good Oracle compatibility, so

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle outer join syntax

2006-04-05 Thread Tom Lane
Stefan Nobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [ still on Oracle8 ] > BTW: You have to use the cost based optimizer (new syntax with rule > based optimizer yields really bad performance). And our DBA really > don't like statistics... :( Sounds like both your database and your DBA are dinosaurs ;-). I

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle outer join syntax

2006-04-05 Thread Csaba Nagy
> BTW: You have to use the cost based optimizer (new syntax with rule > based optimizer yields really bad performance). And our DBA really > don't like statistics... :( This is kind of off topic on this list, but there are ways to force Oracle to use specific plans by carefully hinting it. And th

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle outer join syntax

2006-04-05 Thread Csaba Nagy
> Because there are tons of legacy code I'd have to convert and until > now the Oracle server is still Oracle8. :( I would think that patching postgres will be no less challenging than fixing the legacy code... unless you really have a few tons of it or you simply can't do it (no access for e.g.).

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle outer join syntax

2006-04-05 Thread Stefan Nobis
Csaba Nagy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why would you do that ? If you need a solution which works both on > postgres and oracle, use the standard outer join syntax supported by > postgres - it is supported by the latest oracle versions too. BTW: You have to use the cost based optimizer (new syn

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle outer join syntax

2006-04-05 Thread Stefan Nobis
Csaba Nagy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why would you do that ? If you need a solution which works both on > postgres and oracle, use the standard outer join syntax supported by > postgres - it is supported by the latest oracle versions too. Because there are tons of legacy code I'd have to conv

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle outer join syntax

2006-04-05 Thread Csaba Nagy
Stefan, Why would you do that ? If you need a solution which works both on postgres and oracle, use the standard outer join syntax supported by postgres - it is supported by the latest oracle versions too. We do this here successfully... Cheers, Csaba. On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 14:46, Stefan Nobis