2006/11/29, Guy Rouillier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
John DeSoi wrote:
> There are supposedly some native Mono toolkits for
> the Mac, but I have yet to see any Mac application that uses it.
I'm aware there is substantial anti-Java bias here, but the Standard
Widget Toolkit (SWT) uses native widgets o
John DeSoi wrote:
> There are supposedly some native Mono toolkits for
> the Mac, but I have yet to see any Mac application that uses it.
I'm aware there is substantial anti-Java bias here, but the Standard
Widget Toolkit (SWT) uses native widgets on all platforms. I've never
had occasion to use
Joshua D. Drake wrote on 29.11.2006 17:30:
I forgot that NetBeans was open source now...
Now? It has been open source way before Eclipse even dawned ;)
Thomas
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2006/11/29, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 17:31 +, Tomi N/A wrote:
> 2006/11/29, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 10:17 -0600, Tony Caduto wrote:
> > > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > > > The closest I think you would find is Eclipse or ma
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 17:31 +, Tomi N/A wrote:
> 2006/11/29, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 10:17 -0600, Tony Caduto wrote:
> > > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > > > The closest I think you would find is Eclipse or maybe KDevelop.
> > > >
> > > Actually NetBeans 5.5 i
2006/11/29, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 10:17 -0600, Tony Caduto wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > The closest I think you would find is Eclipse or maybe KDevelop.
> >
> Actually NetBeans 5.5 is the closest thing I have seen for Java that is
> even close to visual
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 10:17 -0600, Tony Caduto wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > The closest I think you would find is Eclipse or maybe KDevelop.
> >
> >
> >
> Actually NetBeans 5.5 is the closest thing I have seen for Java that is
> even close to visual studio or Delphi.
I forgot that NetB
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
The closest I think you would find is Eclipse or maybe KDevelop.
Actually NetBeans 5.5 is the closest thing I have seen for Java that is
even close to visual studio or Delphi.
The visual web add on package they have for 5.5 is actually pretty
amazing, it's a tech p
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 08:29 +0100, Marcus Engene wrote:
> John DeSoi skrev:
>
> > There are highly productive IDEs for the Mac with all the goodies you
> > mention. But few are cross-platform.
> >
> > Your statement about Windows desktop market share is correct, but it is
> > not the relevant p
John DeSoi skrev:
There are highly productive IDEs for the Mac with all the goodies you
mention. But few are cross-platform.
Your statement about Windows desktop market share is correct, but it is
not the relevant point. Many people are interested in cross-platform
tools because they want to
Hi Ritesh,
On Nov 28, 2006, at 8:53 PM, Ritesh Nadhani wrote:
I see that pgEdit is for both Windows and Mac. Which toolkit did you
use to develop it and what are your primary development environment?
pgEdit is written in Lisp with LispWorks (http://www.lispworks.com).
It has a pretty nice c
Hello John
I see that pgEdit is for both Windows and Mac. Which toolkit did you
use to develop it and what are your primary development environment?
Ritesh
On 11/28/06, John DeSoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Nov 28, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Tony Caduto wrote:
> They are serious applications, but
On Nov 28, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Tony Caduto wrote:
They are serious applications, but they don't exactly have a lot of
forms and look how long Mozilla was in development.
I think the various interfaces in something like Thunderbird shows it
can do all the standard GUI stuff pretty well.
The
On 11/28/06, Tony Caduto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thomas Kellerer wrote:
>
>
> And who cares if my bytecode knows something about Generics as long as
> the application runs at a good speed?
>
I totally agree about generics, nice to have but not really needed.
I dont like generics as much as c
Thomas Kellerer wrote:
And who cares if my bytecode knows something about Generics as long as
the application runs at a good speed?
I totally agree about generics, nice to have but not really needed.
In case not everyone is up to speed about generics, this article is
really good:
http:/
Rich Shepard wrote:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Tony Caduto wrote:
The reason there is no highly productive IDE for Linux/Mac with a nice
forms designer and robust data binding is because in the grand scheme of
things there are not a lot of desktop users for anything other than
win32. Sure there are
Andrus wrote on 28.11.2006 18:17:
5. Java is not LGPL and does not support Generic at bytecode level
I have heard this "Java is not open source" over and over again.
What's the issue with wanting the language to be open source? Where is the
problem with using Java from a license perspective? Yo
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Tony Caduto wrote:
The reason there is no highly productive IDE for Linux/Mac with a nice
forms designer and robust data binding is because in the grand scheme of
things there are not a lot of desktop users for anything other than win32.
Sure there are lots of geeks that us
John DeSoi wrote:
As I mentioned previously, XUL is worth a look for cross platform
applications. I would call FireFox, Mozilla, and Thunderbird serious
applications. And check out Komodo, an excellent cross platform
development environment built on this framework.
They are serious applica
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 13:52 -0500, John DeSoi wrote:
> On Nov 28, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Andrus wrote:
>
> > Only MONO/WinForms is a way to go in any serious application.
>
>
> Funny. Did you read the original post? The poster wanted a *cross-
> platform* GUI and his primary development environmen
On Nov 28, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Andrus wrote:
Only MONO/WinForms is a way to go in any serious application.
Funny. Did you read the original post? The poster wanted a *cross-
platform* GUI and his primary development environment was OS X. Mono
might run on a Mac after you install thousands
>
> Conclusion:
>
> Only MONO/WinForms is a way to go in any serious application.
Py/QT? Py/GTK?
Joshua D. Drake
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On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 17:31 +, Tomi N/A wrote:
> 2006/11/28, Andrus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Only MONO/WinForms is a way to go in any serious application.
>
> Mono needs to show a lot more than beagle and f-spot to be even
> considered interesting, let alone a platform to base industrial
>
2006/11/28, Andrus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Only MONO/WinForms is a way to go in any serious application.
Mono needs to show a lot more than beagle and f-spot to be even
considered interesting, let alone a platform to base industrial
strength applications on.
As long as that doesn't radically cha
>So my advice goes towards Mono/Gtk#. There is a bunch of programming
>languages for Mono/.NET to choose from, so choosing one of them mostly
>depends on your taste.
Here is some information missing from this thread:
1. Gtk# does not support data binding required for database application. It
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