Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Garry Saddington
On Friday 20 June 2008 05:26, Robert Treat wrote: > On Thursday 19 June 2008 14:06:38 Garry Saddington wrote: > > > In any case, however, if PostgreSQL reported the transaction complete > > > and the machine didn't experience any hardware problems (like sudden > > > power or disk failure), I would

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 19 June 2008 14:06:38 Garry Saddington wrote: >> The problem seems to have started last friday, when reports started to go >> missing. > Out of curiosity, what is your vacuum strategy? If you're thinking "transaction ID wraparound", I believ

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Robert Treat
On Thursday 19 June 2008 14:06:38 Garry Saddington wrote: > > In any case, however, if PostgreSQL reported the transaction complete and > > the machine didn't experience any hardware problems (like sudden power or > > disk failure), I would certainly not suspect PostgreSQL as the source of > > the

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Hi, Garry Saddington wrote: On Thursday 19 June 2008 16:55, Joshua D. Drake wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 16:55 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: ... Yes I thought of this but once the report is sent to the DB a separate query is run to get all of that teacher's reports and these are then displa

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 20:29 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: > On Thursday 19 June 2008 19:03, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 19:06 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: > > > On Thursday 19 June 2008 18:15, Alan Hodgson wrote: > > > > On Thursday 19 June 2008, Garry Saddington > <[EMAIL

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Garry Saddington
On Thursday 19 June 2008 19:03, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 19:06 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: > > On Thursday 19 June 2008 18:15, Alan Hodgson wrote: > > > On Thursday 19 June 2008, Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Although I appreciate that this is a funky problem, th

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Shane Ambler
Adrian Klaver wrote: Yes I thought of this but once the report is sent to the DB a separate query is run to get all of that teacher's reports and these are then displayed on a new page. They all appear here but then disappear later. Zope has transaction machinery that rolls everything back on an

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Tom Lane
Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh, and the problem has been intermittant. Another > thing that happened this morning is that Postgres had today as 18/06/2008 > when in fact it was 19/06/2008 and the OS reported this correctly. Two theories about that one: 1. Postgres' timezone set

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Adrian Klaver
-- Original message -- From: Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thursday 19 June 2008 18:52, Adrian Klaver wrote: > > -- Original message -- > > From: Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > On Thursday 19 June 2008 16:5

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 19:12 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: > On Thursday 19 June 2008 18:52, Adrian Klaver wrote: > > -- Original message -- > > From: Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Seems like a transaction with no commit. Basically along as the session

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Garry Saddington
On Thursday 19 June 2008 18:52, Adrian Klaver wrote: > -- Original message -- > From: Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Thursday 19 June 2008 16:55, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 16:55 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: > > > > I have had

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 19:06 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: > On Thursday 19 June 2008 18:15, Alan Hodgson wrote: > > On Thursday 19 June 2008, Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Although I appreciate that this is a funky problem, the problem doesn't yet exist and we are operating in a diagnost

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Geoffrey
Garry Saddington wrote: On Thursday 19 June 2008 18:15, Alan Hodgson wrote: On Thursday 19 June 2008, Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I read in a Postgres manual that the hard disk may report to the OS that a write has occured when it actually has not, is this possible? Yeah. But

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Garry Saddington
On Thursday 19 June 2008 18:09, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Garry Saddington > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have had a serious loss of data and wondered if anyone could shed any > > light on what may have happened. > > My users have been writing reports on students

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Garry Saddington
On Thursday 19 June 2008 18:15, Alan Hodgson wrote: > On Thursday 19 June 2008, Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > I read in a > > Postgres manual that the hard disk may report to the OS that a write has > > occured when it actually has not, is this possible? > > Yeah. But unless t

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Adrian Klaver
-- Original message -- From: Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thursday 19 June 2008 16:55, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 16:55 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: > > > I have had a serious loss of data and wondered if anyone could shed any > >

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Garry Saddington
On Thursday 19 June 2008 18:10, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thursday 19 June 2008 16:55, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 16:55 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: > > > > I have had a serious loss of data and wondered if anyone could

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Alan Hodgson
On Thursday 19 June 2008, Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I read in a > Postgres manual that the hard disk may report to the OS that a write has > occured when it actually has not, is this possible? Yeah. But unless the power suddenly turned off that wouldn't cause data loss. > Oh

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thursday 19 June 2008 16:55, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 16:55 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: > > > I have had a serious loss of data and wondered if anyone could shed any > > > light on what may have happened. > > > My

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Garry Saddington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had a serious loss of data and wondered if anyone could shed any light > on what may have happened. > My users have been writing reports on students. No error messages have been > produced and when called back up

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Garry Saddington
On Thursday 19 June 2008 16:55, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 16:55 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: > > I have had a serious loss of data and wondered if anyone could shed any > > light on what may have happened. > > My users have been writing reports on students. No error messages

Re: [GENERAL] Losing data

2008-06-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 16:55 +0100, Garry Saddington wrote: > I have had a serious loss of data and wondered if anyone could shed any light > on what may have happened. > My users have been writing reports on students. No error messages have been > produced and when called back up the reports se