Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 19:26 +1000, Neil Dugan wrote: > I thought it would only be needed if you where distributing the source for > Postgresql. > > Does the copyright get distributed with the binary Debian packages? > I haven't been able to find it on my Linux box. The copyright of all Debian

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-12 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 07:26:48PM +1000, Neil Dugan wrote: > I thought it would only be needed if you where distributing the source for > Postgresql. > > Does the copyright get distributed with the binary Debian packages? > I haven't been able to find it on my Linux box. Yes it does, in all b

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-12 Thread Neil Dugan
On Thursday 06 October 2005 08:34, Jim C. Nasby wrote: > On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 04:14:03PM -0400, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 09:49:06PM +1000, Neil Dugan wrote: > > > If I was to develop a 'C' project that only used the libpg.so library > > > and the rest was my own stuff w

Re: [GENERAL] License question

2005-10-06 Thread Dann Corbit
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:pgsql-general- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vivek Khera > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:55 PM > To: Postgres General > Subject: Re: [GENERAL] License question > > > On Oct 4, 2005, at 4:38 PM,

Re: [GENERAL] License question

2005-10-06 Thread Vivek Khera
On Oct 4, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Aaron Smith wrote: I never imagined that I would get so many responses. Thanks for all the great information! depending on the nature of your DB you may wish to investigate SQLite as well. it is designed to be embedded into apps, not run as a separate server,

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-06 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 05:34:25PM -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote: > > Yes, because libpg.so is licensed under the BSD license. Note that > > you can do this in a COPYRIGHT file. It just has to be "in all > > copies", whatever that means. > > AFAIK, this would only apply if he was actually distributi

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-05 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 04:14:03PM -0400, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 09:49:06PM +1000, Neil Dugan wrote: > > > > If I was to develop a 'C' project that only used the libpg.so library and > > the > > rest was my own stuff would I need to preserve the copyright to somehow? >

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-05 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 09:49:06PM +1000, Neil Dugan wrote: > > If I was to develop a 'C' project that only used the libpg.so library and the > rest was my own stuff would I need to preserve the copyright to somehow? Yes, because libpg.so is licensed under the BSD license. Note that you can do

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-05 Thread Welty, Richard
Neil Dugan wrote: >If I was to develop a 'C' project that only used the libpg.so library and the >rest was my own stuff would I need to preserve the copyright to somehow? >I wouldn't be distributing any source at all just my executable and the >library. license preservation is relevant if you c

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-05 Thread Neil Dugan
On Wednesday 05 October 2005 06:41, Aaron Glenn wrote: > On 10/4/05, Welty, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Aaron Glenn wrote: > > >Completely incorrect. You can do whatever you like with PostgreSQL; > > >you just can't sue anyone when things go south. > > > > _and_ you need to preserve the

Re: [GENERAL] License question

2005-10-04 Thread Matthew Terenzio
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Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-04 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 10/4/05, Welty, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aaron Glenn wrote: > >Completely incorrect. You can do whatever you like with PostgreSQL; > >you just can't sue anyone when things go south. > > _and_ you need to preserve the copyright notices. excellent point. ---(e

Re: [GENERAL] License question

2005-10-04 Thread Aaron Smith
I never imagined that I would get so many responses. Thanks for all the great information! This really cleared it up for us. It looks like I will take a good long look at postgresql and see how well I can make it interface into our product. This was extremely good news for me... I had thought w

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Richmond Dyes wrote: From my understanding of the license for Postgresql, there is no licensing fees as long as you are not selling it yourself for a profit. This is incorrect. Please see the other messages on this thread. The product you are thinking of is MySQL. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drak

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-04 Thread Welty, Richard
Aaron Glenn wrote: >On 10/4/05, Richmond Dyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From my understanding of the license for Postgresql, there is no >> licensing fees as long as you are not selling it yourself for a profit. >Completely incorrect. You can do whatever you like with PostgreSQL; >you just

Re: [GENERAL] License question

2005-10-04 Thread Magnus Hagander
> This brings me here. I have heard of PostGreSQL, so it's not > new to me. > But all this licensing is. And maybe you can help get some > clarification for the MySQL licensing too. > > We will not be selling the database software. We may install > it for them, though. In fact, most of the t

Re: [GENERAL] License question

2005-10-04 Thread Stefan 'Kaishakunin' Schumacher
Also sprach Aaron Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [License questions] PostgreSQL is released under BSD License. This license say (informal, IANAL) Do whatever you want with the code, but keep the author's acknowledgements. BSD licensed software is quite often incorporated into commercial products, li

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-04 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 10/4/05, Richmond Dyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From my understanding of the license for Postgresql, there is no > licensing fees as long as you are not selling it yourself for a profit. Completely incorrect. You can do whatever you like with PostgreSQL; you just can't sue anyone when thin

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077160A86]

2005-10-04 Thread Richmond Dyes
From my understanding of the license for Postgresql, there is no licensing fees as long as you are not selling it yourself for a profit. There are also free platforms to build your application on. I am myself exploring the use of Centos with php, postgresql, apache with ssl running as a secur

Re: [GENERAL] License question

2005-10-04 Thread Arthur Hoogervorst
Hi, >You can close source it, you can sell it, you can rename it. Add to that: As long as you leave the copyrights notices alone... Isn't that what the BSD license is particularly about? [but then, I might be wrong there] Regards, Arthur ---(end of broadcast)-

Re: [GENERAL] License question

2005-10-04 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 09:49, Aaron Smith wrote: SNIP > We will not be selling the database software. We may install it for > them, though. In fact, most of the time, we will be the ones to install > it, and we charge for that time. Our customers are very aware that we > did not write it, nor a

Re: [GENERAL] License question

2005-10-04 Thread Dann Corbit
[snip] > Knowing all this, what do we need to purchase, what can we do and what > can't we do? It's hard getting a straight answer from anyone that is why > I am here. If we can't do it, we won't. If we can save our customers > some money while getting them really good options and software, we woul

Re: [GENERAL] License question[VASCL:A1077F0DBCA]

2005-10-04 Thread Richmond Dyes
Joshua D. Drake wrote: This brings me here. I have heard of PostGreSQL, so it’s not new to me. But all this licensing is. And maybe you can help get some clarification for the MySQL licensing too. You can do anything you want with PostgreSQL. You can close source it, you c

Re: [GENERAL] License question

2005-10-04 Thread Arthur Hoogervorst
Hi, If I'm not wrong, Postgres comes with a BSD license, which means that it (literally) doesn't matter what you do with the sources or how you link your applications to the Postgres libraries. Pervasive goes into details here: http://www.pervasivepostgres.com/postgresql/mysql.asp. Regards, Ar

Re: [GENERAL] License question

2005-10-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
> This brings me here. I have heard of PostGreSQL, so it’s not new to me. > But all this licensing is. And maybe you can help get some clarification > for the MySQL licensing too. > You can do anything you want with PostgreSQL. You can close source it, you can sell it, you can rename it. You