Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Nasby
On Sep 22, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Vivek Khera wrote: On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Jim C. Nasby wrote: Berkus doesn't count??! He's got long hair! What more do you want?! Well, then based on volume he should count as two :-) No offense intended, Josh... *I'd* count as two, too. Nah, Josh ain't th

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-24 Thread tober
Ron Johnson wrote: It's a pack/herd mentality that serves the species very well, most of the time. Odd that you should state that, in light of your signature tag line. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-pow

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-22 Thread Vivek Khera
On Sep 22, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Jim C. Nasby wrote: Berkus doesn't count??! He's got long hair! What more do you want?! Well, then based on volume he should count as two :-) No offense intended, Josh... *I'd* count as two, too. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-22 Thread Vivek Khera
On Sep 21, 2006, at 10:27 PM, Christopher Browne wrote: In contrast, if a similar infringement were found with one of the products of, say, IBM, you might discover that you got some value for money out of those licensing fees in that the only folks sued are likely to be IBM... That assumes th

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-22 Thread Scott Ribe
> Berkus doesn't count??! He's got long hair! What more do you want?! banjos playing in background... -- Scott Ribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.killerbytes.com/ (303) 722-0567 voice ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the pl

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-22 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:14:06AM +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote: > On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 10:10 -0500, Tony Caduto wrote: > > Merlin Moncure wrote: > > > I have seen a steady progressive rise in the number of postgresql > > > related jobs and the quality of those jobs. Major companies are > > > appar

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-22 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 05:30:59PM -0700, CSN wrote: > PostgreSQL doesn't have any booth babes? ;P Berkus doesn't count??! He's got long hair! What more do you want?! :P > csn > > > On 09/20/06 16:38, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > [snip] > > > I think that description is false. At a certain poi

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-22 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:48:47AM -0500, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 08:47, Brad Nicholson wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 16:38 -0500, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:10:56AM -0500, Tony Caduto wrote: > > > >> For a high level corp manager all they eve

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-22 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 10:10 -0500, Tony Caduto wrote: > Merlin Moncure wrote: > > I have seen a steady progressive rise in the number of postgresql > > related jobs and the quality of those jobs. Major companies are > > apparently rolling out critical infrastructure on postgresql...Vonage > > is

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-21 Thread Christopher Browne
After takin a swig o' Arrakan spice grog, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Nicholson) belched out: > On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 16:38 -0500, Philip Hallstrom wrote: >> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:10:56AM -0500, Tony Caduto wrote: >> >> For a high level corp manager all they ever hear about is MS SQL Server, >>

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-21 Thread Philip Hallstrom
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 16:38 -0500, Philip Hallstrom wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:10:56AM -0500, Tony Caduto wrote: For a high level corp manager all they ever hear about is MS SQL Server, Oracle and DB2, and the more it costs the more they think it is what they need :-) I think that descr

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-21 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 08:47, Brad Nicholson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 16:38 -0500, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:10:56AM -0500, Tony Caduto wrote: > > >> For a high level corp manager all they ever hear about is MS SQL Server, > > >> Oracle and DB2, and the more it c

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/21/06 09:28, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Brad Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 16:38 -0500, Philip Hallstrom wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:10:56AM -0500, Tony Caduto wrote: [snip] > Suing someone is

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-21 Thread Joshua D. Drake
they need :-) I think that description is false. At a certain point in the management hierarchy, the only way anyone has the ability to evaluate something is on the basis of reputation. I think that description is false. At a certain point in the management hierarchy, the only way anyone has t

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-21 Thread Harald Armin Massa
Bill,Suing someone is not the real reason.  It's the excuse given to one'sboss.  The real reason is the "Nobody ever got fired for using IBM" mentality.  "Nobody ever got fired for using IBM" - today it is translated to (Oracle|Microsoft)And it may still be true. But it gives you only half the stor

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-21 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Brad Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 16:38 -0500, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:10:56AM -0500, Tony Caduto wrote: > > >> For a high level corp manager all they ever hear about is MS SQL Server, > > >> Oracle and DB2, and the more it

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-21 Thread Brad Nicholson
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 16:38 -0500, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:10:56AM -0500, Tony Caduto wrote: > >> For a high level corp manager all they ever hear about is MS SQL Server, > >> Oracle and DB2, and the more it costs the more they think it is what > >> they need :-) > >

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-20 Thread Harald Armin Massa
Alvaro,I wonder if we could replace the elephant logo with a female elephant logo.  That could work wonders ... among the elephant community at least.  Are there many elephants among decision makers? Asking google:http://www.google.de/search?q=teach%20an%20elephant%20to%20dance&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-20 Thread Shane Ambler
On 21/9/2006 9:39, "Alvaro Herrera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder if we could replace the elephant logo with a female elephant > logo. That could work wonders ... among the elephant community at > least. Are there many elephants among decision makers? Aren't they all elephants? Oh hang

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-20 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 9/21/06, Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wonder if we could replace the elephant logo with a female elephant logo. That could work wonders ... among the elephant community at least. Are there many elephants among decision makers? our elephant isn't female? that changes everyth

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-20 Thread CSN
PostgreSQL doesn't have any booth babes? ;P csn > On 09/20/06 16:38, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > [snip] > > I think that description is false. At a certain point in the > > management hierarchy, the only way anyone has the ability to > > evaluate something is on the basis of > > > > - if ther

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-20 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 09/20/06 16:38, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > [snip] > > I think that description is false. At a certain point in the > > management hierarchy, the only way anyone has the ability to > > evaluate something is on the basis of > > > > - if there is someone they can sue. > >

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/20/06 16:38, Philip Hallstrom wrote: [snip] > I think that description is false. At a certain point in the > management hierarchy, the only way anyone has the ability to > evaluate something is on the basis of > > - if there is someone they

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-20 Thread Philip Hallstrom
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:10:56AM -0500, Tony Caduto wrote: For a high level corp manager all they ever hear about is MS SQL Server, Oracle and DB2, and the more it costs the more they think it is what they need :-) I think that description is false. At a certain point in the management hiera

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-20 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:10:56AM -0500, Tony Caduto wrote: > For a high level corp manager all they ever hear about is MS SQL Server, > Oracle and DB2, and the more it costs the more they think it is what > they need :-) I think that description is false. At a certain point in the management

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-20 Thread David Fetter
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 09:05:00AM -0400, AgentM wrote: > On Sep 19, 2006, at 23:57 , Merlin Moncure wrote: > > >I have seen a steady progressive rise in the number of postgresql > >related jobs and the quality of those jobs. Major companies are > >apparently rolling out critical infrastructure

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-20 Thread Tony Caduto
Merlin Moncure wrote: I have seen a steady progressive rise in the number of postgresql related jobs and the quality of those jobs. Major companies are apparently rolling out critical infrastructure on postgresql...Vonage is one example: That is good news, I wish there where some of those Post

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-20 Thread AgentM
On Sep 19, 2006, at 23:57 , Merlin Moncure wrote: I have seen a steady progressive rise in the number of postgresql related jobs and the quality of those jobs. Major companies are apparently rolling out critical infrastructure on postgresql...Vonage is one example: (http://jobsearch.monster.c

[GENERAL] postgresql rising

2006-09-19 Thread Merlin Moncure
I have seen a steady progressive rise in the number of postgresql related jobs and the quality of those jobs. Major companies are apparently rolling out critical infrastructure on postgresql...Vonage is one example: (http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=47975237&AVSDM=2006%2D09%2D15+13%