Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
Greg Smith wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Greg Smith wrote: > > > >> Given what you've said about your budget here, I suspect that you're > >> heading toward either 3ware or LSI and all SATA drives. I wouldn't > >> expect that big of a performance difference between the two with only 8 >

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-16 Thread Greg Smith
A B wrote: Don't put SAS drives on a 3ware controller. They say that works now, but they haven't really gotten it right yet--their controllers are still only good with SATA drives. How bad will it be with SAS drives? Is there so little performance gain witn 3ware+SAS? The concern isn

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-16 Thread Greg Smith
Bruce Momjian wrote: Greg Smith wrote: Given what you've said about your budget here, I suspect that you're heading toward either 3ware or LSI and all SATA drives. I wouldn't expect that big of a performance difference between the two with only 8 drives on there. If you had 24, the 3ware

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-16 Thread Greg Smith
John R Pierce wrote: Vick Khera wrote: Interesting... same advice goes for Adaptec + FreeBSD. I guess Adaptec + !Windows == bad? i've never liked adaptec, windows or not. Yeah, I was trying to be as nice as possible since I don't run Windows anymore, and for all I know their cards are f

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-15 Thread John R Pierce
Vick Khera wrote: Interesting... same advice goes for Adaptec + FreeBSD. I guess Adaptec + !Windows == bad? i've never liked adaptec, windows or not. bunches of their too-popular SCSI cards even way back in the old days of 10-20MB/sec SCSI had sketchy electrical specs on the SCSI bus an

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-15 Thread Vick Khera
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Greg Smith wrote: > Don't put an Adaptec card into a Linux system.  They don't take that OS > nearly as seriously as your other choices here. > Interesting... same advice goes for Adaptec + FreeBSD. I guess Adaptec + !Windows == bad? -- Sent via pgsql-general m

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Greg Smith wrote: > Given what you've said about your budget here, I suspect that you're > heading toward either 3ware or LSI and all SATA drives. I wouldn't > expect that big of a performance difference between the two with only 8 > drives on there. If you had 24, the 3ware controller would l

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-15 Thread A B
> Don't put SAS drives on a 3ware controller.  They say that works now, but > they haven't really gotten it right yet--their controllers are still only > good with SATA drives. How bad will it be with SAS drives? Is there so little performance gain witn 3ware+SAS? Scott Marlowe stated in earlier

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-15 Thread Greg Smith
A B wrote: 3Ware SAS 9690SA-8i 512 MB BBU Adaptec SAS Raid 5805 256 MB BBU LSI MegaRaid SAS 8708 128 MB BBU When it comes to choosing the acctual discs I guess this would be appropriate to use: "other data": Barracda ES.2 1000 GB (SATA) to get a a good GB/$ ratio. OS/xlog : Barracuda ES.2 500

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-14 Thread Vick Khera
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:34 AM, A B wrote: > 3Ware SAS 9690SA-8i 512 MB BBU > Adaptec SAS Raid 5805  256 MB BBU > LSI MegaRaid SAS 8708 128 MB BBU > When faced with the choice of Adaptec vs. anything else, I choose anything else. When faced with the choice of LSI vs anything else, I look really

Re: [GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-13 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:34 AM, A B wrote: > Hello. > > It's time to get new hardware for a server that will run both > PostgreSQL and Apache. > The workload will be similar to that of  your standard "PHP forum" > (most selects and logging of stuff that has been read) > > The modell I'm looking a

[GENERAL] hardware for a server

2010-03-13 Thread A B
Hello. It's time to get new hardware for a server that will run both PostgreSQL and Apache. The workload will be similar to that of your standard "PHP forum" (most selects and logging of stuff that has been read) The modell I'm looking at right now is 2x Xeon E5520 2,26 GHz 8 MB (8 cores in tot