Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-26 Thread Richard_D_Levine
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Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-26 Thread Raymond O'Donnell
On 25 Jan 2005 at 8:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Do you need something from PostgreSQL that Firebird doesn't have? My > experience has been that Firebird/Interbase is a fairly complete, ACID > compliant, low/no maintenance back end for single workstation > applications. ...except that it lacks

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-26 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Jan 26, 2005, at 17:11, Magnus Hagander wrote: OK, perhaps I'm not comparing apples to apples. On OS X I have an administrative account and I can run PostgreSQL just fine. So what you are saying is an administrative account on Windows is more like root on Unix. Really? I'd call that a bug in the

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-26 Thread Magnus Hagander
> >> Not all Windows users are dummies about security and need > PostgreSQL > >> to enforce security measures beyond those implemented on other > >> platforms. > > > > First of all, it does *not* enforce anything beyond what's > enforced on > > Unix. On Unix, it doesn't run as root. On Windows

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-26 Thread Magnus Hagander
> > Sorry, but any Windows user who thinks he doesn't need security > > measures equivalent to (not "beyond") minimum Unix practice > is a dummy > > about security. Take a look at this LOAD vulnerability > we're in the > > midst of patching, and ask yourself whether you aren't glad that it >

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread John DeSoi
On Jan 25, 2005, at 5:02 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote: Again, I think this is fine as the default, but it would be nice if it could be changed with a setting (rather than recompiling the source). That can always be argued :-) I had a feeling it would be :) Not all Windows users are dummies about secu

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread John DeSoi
Hi Tom, On Jan 25, 2005, at 4:35 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Sorry, but any Windows user who thinks he doesn't need security measures equivalent to (not "beyond") minimum Unix practice is a dummy about security. Take a look at this LOAD vulnerability we're in the midst of patching, and ask yourself wheth

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread David Garamond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The trick is making database administration invisible to the user. Since Firebird requires no administration, it's easy. The single file database architecture in Firebird is also easy since you generally have only one drive. The decision not to create an embedded Postgres

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread David Garamond
John DeSoi wrote: But on Windows 8.0 you can't run the postmaster with an administrative account, correct? I really wish this was configurable in the PostgreSQL settings (of course, defaulting to the way it is now). I think there have been several threads debating this issue in the past (on whet

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread Magnus Hagander
>This has long been common practice in the Unix world, and is starting >to become standard practice in the Windows world as well as Microsoft >and other vendors work to improve the security of their systems. >== > >Again, I think this is fine as the default, but it would be nice if it >could

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread Magnus Hagander
>>> 2.3) Why do I need a non-administrator account to run >PostgreSQL under? > >> Again, I think this is fine as the default, but it would be >nice if it >> could be changed with a setting (rather than recompiling the >source). >> Not all Windows users are dummies about security and need >Po

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread Tom Lane
John DeSoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> 2.3) Why do I need a non-administrator account to run PostgreSQL under? > Again, I think this is fine as the default, but it would be nice if it > could be changed with a setting (rather than recompiling the source). > Not all Windows users are dummies

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread John DeSoi
On Jan 25, 2005, at 1:55 PM, Christopher Browne wrote: I haven't the foggiest idea what you can do on Windows 8.0; I thought they called it Windows XP or Windows 2000. Sorry, I meant version 8.0 of PostgreSQL on Windows (any variant it works on). I'm making the Unix-flavoured assumptions that it'

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John DeSoi) writes: > On Jan 25, 2005, at 8:44 AM, Christopher Browne wrote: >> You can do that with PostgreSQL by configuring pg_hba.conf to only >> accept connections from localhost. >> >> And there is no problem with the notion of creating a database in a >> local directory. >

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread John DeSoi
On Jan 25, 2005, at 8:44 AM, Christopher Browne wrote: You can do that with PostgreSQL by configuring pg_hba.conf to only accept connections from localhost. And there is no problem with the notion of creating a database in a local directory. None of this requires any change. But on Windows 8.0 you

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread Richard_D_Levine
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Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread Christopher Browne
Martha Stewart called it a Good Thing when [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tope Akinniyi) wrote: > If I may ask, is there any plan for embedded PostgreSQL database as > we have it in Firebird database?  In Firebird embedded a compact > engine of the database that can only accept connections from > localhost (1

Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread Richard_D_Levine
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Re: [GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tope Akinniyi wrote: > If I may ask, is there any plan for embedded PostgreSQL database No. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if

[GENERAL] EMBEDDED PostgreSQL

2005-01-25 Thread Tope Akinniyi
Hi,   If I may ask, is there any plan for embedded PostgreSQL database as we have it in Firebird database?  In Firebird embedded a compact engine of the database that can only accept connections from localhost (127.0.0.1) and easily distributable with single user applications exists.   Any plan for

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-12-04 Thread Randolf Richardson
[sNip] > Thanks for all the answers. > It seems if I wish to make my idea into > reality I will have to invest in the Profesional > Microsoft Visual C++ studio. [sNip] What about OpenWatcom? Open Watcom - Portable Compilers and Tools http://www.openwatcom.

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-12-02 Thread jini us
Thanks for all the answers. It seems if I wish to make my idea into reality I will have to invest in the Profesional Microsoft Visual C++ studio. Having said that if anyone can help me with a cheap copy of the developer studio which you do not want and want to sell it to me very very cheap. I w

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-12-02 Thread jini us
Thanks for all the answers. It seems if I wish to make my idea into reality I will have to invest in the Profesional Microsoft Visual C++ studio. Having said that if anyone can help me with a cheap copy of the developer studio which you do not want and want to sell it to me very very cheap. I w

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-11-17 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Eclipse also has a nice c++ plugin. Richard Welty wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:48:46 + (GMT) jini us <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Java has long way to catch up with C++ in my opinion. perhaps. this is neither the time nor the place for that discussion. however, in answer to the actual

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-11-17 Thread Richard Welty
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:48:46 + (GMT) jini us <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Java has long way to catch up with C++ > in my opinion. perhaps. this is neither the time nor the place for that discussion. however, in answer to the actual discussion in this thread, netbeans (not javabeans) is a nice

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-11-17 Thread jini us
> -Original Message- > > > > > From: jini us [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:07 PM > > > > > To: Joshua D. Drake > > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-11-17 Thread jini us
ers for linux/unix rather > than > > windows. > > > > --- Dann Corbit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: jini us [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:07 PM > >

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql

2003-11-15 Thread scott.marlowe
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, jini us wrote: > Hi, > > I am starting a new project where I intend to use > embedded database server in my win32 application. > I intend to use VC++ microsoft studio 6.0 as my > development environment. > > The postgres.org website seems to be catering for > people with all

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql

2003-11-14 Thread scott.marlowe
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, jini us wrote: > > if libpq.dll contains the server and I can call the functions > to start and stop programmatically. > Then I could use Postgres as an embedded database sever in my application. > That way I include libpq.dll in my software package for deployment > with i

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql

2003-11-14 Thread jini us
I have come to the conclusion that for my purpose I would be better off using sqlite from www.sqlite.org or firebird from www.phoenix.com. Although mysql provides client APIs & server APIs and is stable. But there seems to be doubt whether mysql is actually free if I wish to use it as an embedded

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-11-14 Thread jini us
ent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:07 PM > > To: Joshua D. Drake > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ > IDE > > > > > > I am using MS windows so ideally I would like > > to get hold of a

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql

2003-11-14 Thread jini us
I would class your solution as a work around rather than a "natural solution". Anyway I am using MS windows and to implement postgres as embedded, using your approach, would probably become complicated. .It would probably introduce unwanted bugs in my software. --- Christopher Browne <[EMAIL

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-11-14 Thread jini us
gt; > Cheers, > > Zoltan > > - Original Message - > From: "jini us" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mike Mascari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:28 AM > Subject: Re: [GENERAL] embe

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql

2003-11-14 Thread Stephen
PostgreSQL is not intended to be embedded into other programs. You might want to try SQLite, it's a free embeddable SQL engine: http://go.jitbot.com/sqlite regards "jini us" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi, > > I am starting a new project where I intend to use >

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql

2003-11-14 Thread Christopher Browne
In the last exciting episode, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jini us) wrote: > It is a shame that postgres is not available as an embedded server > unlike mysql database server which comes in the form of a dll. When the postmaster runs as a separate process, this has three major merits: 1. It takes advanta

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql

2003-11-14 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (jini us) writes: > So when the user starts my application I would start the database > server, then stop it programmatically when the user stops using the > application. > I would obviously need some functionality so that I can programmatically > configure which disk I would use

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-11-14 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Friday 14 November 2003 18:47, jini us wrote: > I was looking at the screen shots and the screen shots > do not show any features for GUI drag + drop > development. > > Does it have a GUI drag + drop for drawing windows > components ? Yes. It has Qt designer which supports custom KDE widgets b

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-11-14 Thread BARTKO, Zoltan
. Cheers, Zoltan - Original Message - From: "jini us" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mike Mascari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:28 AM Subject: Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE > > I hav

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-11-13 Thread jini us
I have just downloaded that one. It doesn't any features for designing GUI forms. It is just a project manager. --- Mike Mascari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jini us wrote: > > > Anybody knows of a c++ IDE, similar to Microsoft > > studio but free. > > Also good C++ site where I can pick up

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql + C++ IDE

2003-11-13 Thread Mike Mascari
jini us wrote: > Anybody knows of a c++ IDE, similar to Microsoft > studio but free. > Also good C++ site where I can pick up free > components. I've never used it but if download statistics is correlated in any way to quality Dev-C++ is one of the top downloads on sourceforge: http://sourceforg

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql

2003-11-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
jini us wrote: Hi, I am starting a new project where I intend to use embedded database server in my win32 application. I intend to use VC++ microsoft studio 6.0 as my development environment. The postgres.org website seems to be catering for people with all sorts of requirements and platforms. 1.

[GENERAL] embedded postgresql

2003-11-12 Thread jini us
Hi, I am starting a new project where I intend to use embedded database server in my win32 application. I intend to use VC++ microsoft studio 6.0 as my development environment. The postgres.org website seems to be catering for people with all sorts of requirements and platforms. 1. Where can I f

Re: [GENERAL] embedded postgresql

2003-11-12 Thread jini us
It is a shame that postgres is not available as an embedded server unlike mysql database server which comes in the form of a dll. However with mysql licence I would have to pay $10,000 if I wish to include it in mysql as an embedded server in my app. mysql database server is also a TCP/IP socket